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Re: ISPs can easily decrease net abuse

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From: Jody Goldberg
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:01
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On 2003-12-05, Laurent <laurent@faked.mblelop.com> wrote:
>> phn@icke-reklam.ipsec.nu wrote:
>>
>> Spreadsheets are done with a number of alternatives, gnumeric is
>> one of them.
>
> Yeah. Send gnumeric to a professional accountant doing real work. Your
> computer is going to get back to you airborne.

Have you actually tried Gnumeric ?

As the maintainer I can tell you with a fair amount of certainty
that there are already several areas where Gnumeric walks all over
MS excel.  Our analytics are a good starting point.

With bugs like
    http://www.woodyswatch.com/office2003/archtemplate.asp?1-n11

And reviews of Gnumeric like
    Dr. B. D. McCullough, associate professor of Decision Sciences at
    Drexel University and a noted authority on the accuracy of
    statistical software, has concluded that  "Persons who wish to use a
    spreadsheet to perform statistical analyses, and who are concerned
    about the accuracy of their results, are advised to use Gnumeric
    rather than Excel." 

I don't think its a stretch to conclude that nothing is going
to be airborne.

> Sure, microsoft's product have a lot of problems, security holes and
> whatnot. Yes they're also bloaty. But you can't just pretend to replace all
> that and achieve the same results.

This I'll agree to.  MS Excel is an impressive piece of work.  The
main problem is that the bugs/limitations that exist are not fixed.
Its taken them 7 years to partially fix their VAR calculation ??

Does MS Excel have features Gnumeric lacks ? certainly.  There are
many instances where it is still a better choice.  However, we're
catching up and have taken the lead in spots.  I suspect your
accountant might be a bit happier with a spreadsheet that calculates
the right answers, than with one that draws a pretty gradient filled
box.
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From: Jody Goldberg <jody@gnome.org>
Subject: Re: ISPs can easily decrease net abuse
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