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Re: ISPs can easily decrease net abuse

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From: Barry Margolin
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 22:30
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In article <Xns9444C41F512FBjbuserspc9org@130.179.16.24>,
 Jem Berkes <jem@users.pc9__org> wrote:

> Ideally this would happen. However as we know, the great majority of ISPs 
> are useless in dealing with abuse. And _that's_ why I'm saying static IPs 
> all around would be nice, because then the Internet community could more 
> easily spot the point source of abuse and take their own measures to block  
> it -- blacklist the IP address so people can block mail and any other 
> traffic at their own firewalls/routers.
> 
> So the benefit of static addressing would be to the Internet in general, 
> not to individual ISPs.

By this logic, ordinary citizens should be allowed to perform activities 
that are normally restricted to law enforcement organizations (e.g. 
phone taps), because the police can't investigate all crimes.

We should be holding ISPs to a higher standard, not giving up and 
becoming Internet vigilantes.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Woburn, MA
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