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Re: ISPs can easily decrease net abuse

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From: Walter Roberson
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 03:59
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In article <0TTyb.118354$Fv8.114900@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>,
booster <saltynuts2002@msn.com> wrote:
:ipv6 isn't only about shortage.. it has better security and a host of
:features too. For example you can't do ipsec over NAT. NAT is a hack and we
:all know hacks will burn you sooner or later

You *can* do IPSec over NAT.

IPSec defines multiple layers: the payload itself (possibly
encrypted), encryption headers (ESP), and authentication headers (AH).
AH is optional, and if you don't have it turned on, then you can
still use the authentication layer that ESP provides for the payload;
AH adds authentication of the IP addresses themselves.

It was not possible before to do AH over NAT, but there is now a
draft IETF "UDP Encpasulation of IPSec Packets",
http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/ipsec-charter.html
This UDP encapsulation routine -automatically- detects whether
one or both ends of the link are undergoing NAT, and does encapsulation
via UDP 4500 only if necessary.
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From: roberson@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca (Walter Roberson)
Newsgroups: comp.security.misc,can.internet.highspeed
Subject: Re: ISPs can easily decrease net abuse
Date: 2 Dec 2003 03:59:39 GMT
Organization: National Research Council Canada - Conseil national de rechereches Canada
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