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Re: ISPs can easily decrease net abuse

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From: Lassi Hippeläinen
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:36
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Laurent wrote:
> 
> Juergen Nieveler wrote:
> > roberson@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca (Walter Roberson) wrote:
> >
> >> Not all NAT implimentations are specific about who they
> >> let back in.
> >
> > Not to mention that NAT will pass away as soon as
> > everybody is on IPv6

And NAT cannot protect against e-mail worms anyway.

> Everybody on IPv6? This will not happen in your lifetime. Now that the ipv4
> address shortage myth has been debunked, there's no point for massive
> migration towards ipv6. We'll end up with a mixed internet with both
> systems forever.
> 
> Laurent

Once the production of IP-capable cellular phones is up at full speed,
there will be more than a hundred million new phones annually. If one
NAT box can handle 10000 phones, an operator with 100 million customers
(e.g in Asia) needs ten thousand NAT boxes. A whole building full of
them...

Not surprisingly, 3GPP standardised IPv6 for the phones. In a few years
the majority of terminals connected to the Internet will run IPv6.

NAT is not a solution, it is a problem. With NAT boxes you can't have
peer-to-peer connections. Only the client-server model works. Each time
you want a direct connection, you have to use a bridging server provided
by your ISP, at a fee. And that server may become a bottleneck and a
single point of failure. The perfect target for DoS.

-- Lassi
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Subject: Re: ISPs can easily decrease net abuse
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:36:26 +0200
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