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Article #1128Re: ISPs can easily decrease net abuse
From: Kevin
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:40
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:40
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isnt the procative thing that the big isp s are doing these days is to sell anti virus or firewall..bell and telus are pushing these services ot members as much as they can. this sort of offering just seems to be the way ALL the big isp s are going so whats in it for them 2 or 3 dollars a month in hard revenue to pay for the firewall or antivirus users with some sort of protection on the network not sure if its worth it or not buth they are all going that direction for some reason I would guess. dont get into a linux box or anyting like that sort of setup. the big guys are not interested in ppl for that sort of setup they want mom and day using the service. set them up once get it right and hope they just keep paying and dont have to call back. there has to be something to this strategy as opposed to smaller isps trying to get users to download after midnight and before 8 am I might not agree with what the big companies are doing but the business plan is obviously putting some black into the bottom line at the end of the year. now a quick comment on the cap issue...from all Im seeing rogers backed off or is in the process of backing off. the smaller isps have pushed the bandwidth hogs back to bell or downloading in the way wya off peak hours all that bell did with caps was push the high end bandwidth users away set themselves up with a bandwidth monitoring system that is sitting there ready to be turned back on at the flick of a switch....i think caps speed and price should get real interesting between now and next may...all we can do is wait and see Kevin "Leythos" <void@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:MPG.1a35846b4a8b46bc989eaa@news-server.columbus.rr.com... > In article <Xns944473C154314jbuserspc9org@130.179.16.24>, jem@users.pc9 > __org says... > > >> Then something occurred to me. Wouldn't it help dramatically if ISPs > > >> delegated static IP addresses for any kind of permanent connectivity? > > >> This way, customers' addresses would stay constant and make them > > >> easier to track down: > > > > > > Actually, if ISP's required users to install a router with NAT it > > > would eliminate most of it. The hacks and worms could not infect new > > > machines protected by NAT. > > > > This is part of the great irony of ISPs not knowing what's really > > financially beneficial to them: > > > > Static IPs cost little extra to set up, but help the Internet more easily > > self-regulate and block malicious traffic without having to resort to > > blocking the whole ISP. When large netblocks in the ISP are blacklisted > > globally, the ISP loses * way more business * due to customers going > > elsewhere. > > But your action is not PROACTIVE. If they forced non-business users to > live with NAT it would be a proactive measure - meaning that they would > block uninvited inbound activity at the modem. > > This could also have an added benefit of blocking inbound file sharing > and servers that are not suppose to be running on residential networks > anyway :) > > Static IP's are not something to mess with, they are a fixed resource > that blacklisting is also reactive, not proactive. > > > -- > -- > spamfree999@rrohio.com > (Remove 999 to reply to me)
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