Article View: comp.security.misc
Article #157Re: unhappy about overloading finger
From: Tom Fitzgerald
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:40
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:40
47 lines
2513 bytes
2513 bytes
ggm@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (George Michaelson) writes: > (1) automated s/w is flooding the net with fingers > (2) paranoia-calls are responding with fingers > (3) loops are likely. Anybody that does back-fingers has to worry about loops, for sure. The best thing to do might be to keep a log of recent backfingers and not refinger anybody that's been hit in the last minute. > (4) meantime, crackers are "hidden" by legitimate finger usage. Make finger useless to crackers, and this won't be a problem. The advantages of finger to crackers is it lets them find login names, identify accounts that haven't been used for a while, and get the human name for the account so they can try looking up spousal names and such in the phone book, as potential passwords. The best way to counteract these is 1) have finger look up substrings of the mailing address, not the login name, and don't report the login name, 2) don't report the time of last login, and 3) make sure nobody is using a spouse name as a password. The finger daemon here reports a user's human name, mailing address, whether they're currently logged on (so you can try a talk (but you already have to know the user's login name)), and the .plan file. A finger without a user name prints a polite message to contact me. I like this scheme. > I would prefer > to see an explicit 'distributed information' protocol to replace finger > being used for: > > email address lookup > directory service call > generalised information checks whois does this, but too few people have whois clients. Most name-brand DOS TCP/IP packages, and all Unixes that I know of, have finger. Many Unixes, and most (nearly all?) DOS packages are missing whois. And nobody has a client for any alternative protocol.... I'm wondering what to do about the person who ran "finger \*@das.wang.com" from an outside site today. Anybody know if there are finger daemons that screw up on user "*"? -- Tom Fitzgerald Wang Labs fitz@wang.com "I went to the universe today; 1-508-967-5278 Lowell MA, USA It was closed...."
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<199207230140.AA18677@fnord.wang.com>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!das.wang.com!wang!newsReferences:
<ggm.711690458@brolga>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
Newsgroups: comp.security.misc Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!das.wang.com!wang!news From: Tom Fitzgerald <fitz@wang.com> Subject: Re: unhappy about overloading finger Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 21:40:48 EDT Message-ID: <199207230140.AA18677@fnord.wang.com> References: <ggm.711690458@brolga> Sender: news@wang.com Lines: 47