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Re: unhappy about overloading finger

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From: Tom Fitzgerald
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:40
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ggm@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (George Michaelson) writes:

> 	(1) automated s/w is flooding the net with fingers
> 	(2) paranoia-calls are responding with fingers
> 	(3) loops are likely.

Anybody that does back-fingers has to worry about loops, for sure.  The
best thing to do might be to keep a log of recent backfingers and not
refinger anybody that's been hit in the last minute.

> 	(4) meantime, crackers are "hidden" by legitimate finger usage.

Make finger useless to crackers, and this won't be a problem.

The advantages of finger to crackers is it lets them find login names,
identify accounts that haven't been used for a while, and get the human
name for the account so they can try looking up spousal names and such in
the phone book, as potential passwords.  The best way to counteract these
is 1) have finger look up substrings of the mailing address, not the login
name, and don't report the login name, 2) don't report the time of last
login, and 3) make sure nobody is using a spouse name as a password.

The finger daemon here reports a user's human name, mailing address,
whether they're currently logged on (so you can try a talk (but you already
have to know the user's login name)), and the .plan file.  A finger without
a user name prints a polite message to contact me.  I like this scheme.

> I would prefer
> to see an explicit 'distributed information' protocol to replace finger
> being used for:
>
> 	email address lookup
> 	directory service call
> 	generalised information checks

whois does this, but too few people have whois clients.  Most name-brand
DOS TCP/IP packages, and all Unixes that I know of, have finger.  Many
Unixes, and most (nearly all?) DOS packages are missing whois.  And nobody
has a client for any alternative protocol....

I'm wondering what to do about the person who ran "finger \*@das.wang.com"
from an outside site today.  Anybody know if there are finger daemons that
screw up on user "*"?

-- 
Tom Fitzgerald   Wang Labs       fitz@wang.com   "I went to the universe today;
1-508-967-5278   Lowell MA, USA                   It was closed...."
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