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Re: unhappy about overloading finger

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From: Nelson Minar
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:20
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In article <199207230140.AA18677@fnord.wang.com> fitz@wang.com (Tom Fitzgerald	) writes:
>The advantages of finger to crackers is it lets them find login names,
>identify accounts that haven't been used for a while, and get the human
>name for the account so they can try looking up spousal names and such in
>the phone book, as potential passwords.

I think the "spousal name" thing is apocryphal, at least in the case
of UNIX machines on the Internet. It looked great on Wargames, and it
might work for your friend Joe, but if I'm hacking blegga.cac.washington.edu 
I'm not going to go to a Seattle phonebook.

A far more common way for accounts to be cracked is for someone to
steal your YP password file (not too hard to do if you're running yp
and are on the internet) and run a fine cracking tool like Crack 4.1
with a fast crypt().

How do you, as a sysadmin, prevent this? Crack your password file
yourself. Don't let users have crackable passwords. 

If you want to be butch try to fix yp, or use a shadow scheme that
works. That's a lot of trouble, and the best you'll probably do is
security through obscurity.

>I'm wondering what to do about the person who ran "finger
>\*@das.wang.com" from an outside site today.  Anybody know if there
>are finger daemons that screw up on user "*"?

Dunno, but Ultrix finger joyfully screws up on user "@". Try "finger
@@some.ultrix.machine.army.mil" - it's quite fun.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ogicse!reed!nelson
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: comp.security.misc
Subject: Re: unhappy about overloading finger
Message-ID: <1992Jul23.032058.3292@reed.edu>
Date: 23 Jul 92 03:20:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Jul23.032058.3292
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