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Article #460Re: Tripwire release
From: Greg Limes
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 20:20
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 20:20
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In article <Bx8757.HoF@acsu.buffalo.edu> owens@acsu.buffalo.edu (Bill Owens) writes: | Without adding the overhead of a digital signature for each file which | tripwire is keeping track of, could the program perhaps be set up to | check a cryptographic signature on the entire database? If the key | used to make the signature were kept secure, presumably by encrypting | it, then I think this setup would be equally secure. I think this is insufficient. Let's say you protected a key program with such a signature, and used a shell that would check such signatures before executing the program. I'm a baddie, with sufficient (but maybe temporary) privileges on your system that I can change the bits in the program (or maybe I'm a virus). I change what I want to change, subverting the program. Then I find some other bits that I don't care about, and twiddle them until the signature is right. If I can make that backward calculation either directly or by trial-and-error in a reasonable time, then your signature protection system is no protection.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!portal!lll-winken!snow.geology.wisc.edu!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wotan.compaq.com!moxie!texsun!cronkite.Central.Sun.COM!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!exodus.Eng.Sun.COM!appserv.Eng.Sun.COM!appserv!limes From: limes@ouroborous.eng.sun.com (Greg Limes) Newsgroups: comp.security.misc,alt.security,comp.unix.admin Subject: Re: Tripwire release Message-ID: <LIMES.92Nov5142000@ouroborous.eng.sun.com> Date: 5 Nov 92 20:20:00 GMT References: <1992Nov4.203802.10885@cs.sandia.gov> <Bx8757.HoF@acsu.buffalo.edu> Organization: Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: ouroborous In-reply-to: owens@acsu.buffalo.edu's message of 5 Nov 92 04:29:30 GMT