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Re: Forging E-mail from root to get users to change passwords

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From: peter da silva
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 22:14
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In article <ratner.720811773@ficus.cs.ucla.edu> ratner@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Dave "Van Damme" Ratner) writes:
> Yes, it is true that root never needs to know a user's password ---
> root can always su to the user without knowing the password.

Not if root is trying to debug a problem in login or rlogin where the user's
password is entered. I had one case where a user's password included a pound
sign... which worked fine on the Suns but he couldn't login on Xenix for some
reason.

Generally I get the *user* to type in his password in cases like this, and
make a point of not watching. If I  ask the user his password it's always in
person and I tell them to change it immediately.

This sort of social engineering attack is hard to foil in the general case.
See alt.shenanigans for more ideas... :->
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From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
Subject: Re: Forging E-mail from root to get users to change passwords
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