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Re: Forging E-mail from root to get users to change passwords

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From: Dan Wing
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 21:34
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In article <1992Nov5.174213.2370@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com 
(fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:

> In <92309.193737CXF111@psuvm.psu.edu> Charles Fee <CXF111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> 
>>Why would a hacker (who apparently has root access) need to tell users to
>>change their password?  On my system (Linux) all root has to do is wipe out
>>the users' old password and then the account is free.  You could then log in
>>as that user without a password and run the passwd program to change it to
>>whatever the cracker feels like doing.  
[...]
> You don't even have to go through all this, if you already have root
> access.  Just use passwd from root with the username argument and you
> can change it directly from root.

A hacker would usually ask a user to change their password because the 
hacker *doesn't* have root access (at least, not yet).  The hacker faked an
Email address to make it look like it came from root - it didn't come from 
root.

Also, if a hacker changes someone's password, the person will know it (the
legitimate user can no longer login) and the legit user will call the 
the sysadmin and whine "I forgot my password" and the sysadmin will change it 
-- locking out the hacker.  If a hacker wants to run 'stealth' on your system,
it is a lot easier to use an already-existing username rather than create a
new username or use your root login.

My own comments and ideas, not those of my employer.

-dan
 Internet: DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU, or DWING@cudnvr.denver.colorado.edu
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From: dwing@cudnvr.denver.colorado.edu (Dan Wing)
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Subject: Re: Forging E-mail from root to get users to change passwords
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