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Article #691Re: CERT and the Dept. of Justice on keystr
From: Paul (Cliffy) Palmer
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:31
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:31
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In article 3072@nntp.hut.fi, jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes: > >If you turn the paranoia knob clockwise, what you get is a login >banner designed to get consent to any surveillance from each and every >user by using "computer security" and "intruders" as smoke & mirrors. > >//Jyrki We must be careful not to confuse rights with privilege. If while visiting a friend, I used his phone and he listened in on the conversation, I would not feel that my rights had been violated. I would think him very rude and would not use his phone again. Now if he were visiting me and listened in on my phone conversation, the situation would be different. I have a hard time understanding how guests can make demands of their hosts. It seems to be the human condition that after having been granted a privilege for a long time, we take it for granted and begin to assume that it is our right. ie. the "legal right" to: - drive a car - come and go as we please - drink alcohol That came out a little more like preaching than I had hoped...so in the interests of network bandwidth, if you strongly disagree with me, either ignore me or flame me via E-mail --- Paul (Cliffy) Palmer E-Mail: palmer@trade_zone.msfc.nasa.gov I would argue that when a society starts legislating courtesy, it is a sure sign that it has started to collapse.
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Newsgroups: comp.security.misc Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lambda.msfc.nasa.gov!news From: palmer@Trade_Zone.msfc.nasa.gov (Paul (Cliffy) Palmer) Subject: Re: CERT and the Dept. of Justice on keystr Message-ID: <1992Dec12.043113.24232@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov> Sender: news@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Newsmaster) Nntp-Posting-Host: isabella.msfc.nasa.gov Reply-To: palmer@Trade_Zone.msfc.nasa.gov Organization: New Technology, Inc. References: <1992Dec11.235142.3072@nntp.hut.fi> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:31:13 GMT Lines: 41