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Re: CERT and the Dept. of Justice on keystr

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From: Paul (Cliffy) Palmer
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:31
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In article 3072@nntp.hut.fi, jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
>
>If you turn the paranoia knob clockwise, what you get is a login
>banner designed to get consent to any surveillance from each and every
>user by using "computer security" and "intruders" as smoke & mirrors.
>
>//Jyrki

We must be careful not to confuse rights with privilege.

If while visiting a friend, I used his phone and he listened in on the
conversation, I would not feel that my rights had been violated.  I
would think him very rude and would not use his phone again.  Now if he
were visiting me and listened in on my phone conversation, the
situation would be different.

I have a hard time understanding how guests can make demands of their
hosts.

It seems to be the human condition that after having been granted a
privilege for a long time, we take it for granted and begin to assume
that it is our right. ie. the "legal right" to:
	- drive a car
	- come and go as we please
	- drink alcohol

That came out a little more like preaching than I had hoped...so in the
interests of network bandwidth, if you strongly disagree with me, either
ignore me or flame me via E-mail

---
Paul (Cliffy) Palmer
E-Mail: palmer@trade_zone.msfc.nasa.gov

I would argue that when a society starts legislating courtesy,
it is a sure sign that it has started to collapse.
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