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Article #702Re: Stupid Licenses (YUCK!)
From: Leonard Erickson
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:21
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:21
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bhayden@teal.csn.org (Bruce Hayden) writes: >eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver) writes: >>Because of the variety of IBM-Compatible products out there testing for >>every configuration is unrealistic, if not impossible. Even in the Mac >>world, there are problems that occur because of interactions between >>INITs and CDEVs with applications. Are these bugs? >I think that depends on how common the hardware and hardware combination >is. If the hardware is anywhere close to common, then I would contend >that it is a reasonable to test a major product on all of the common >hardware. The problem is that the *combinations* are unmanageable. Say the 10 most common motherboards, the 10 most common video boards, the 10 most common TSRs. Plus the 10 most common add-on devices. That gives you *ten thousand* combinations, assuming only one selection from each class. But some can exist in multiples. And you actually need to test for more than the 10 most common in some classes. It *isn't* practical to test even *most* interactions. All you can reasonably do is test the some "standard" configurations. (Ones that are known to be "the standard" that everything else is supposed to work like) >I also would contend that once you have serious problems with a specified >hardware combination (with previous releases or products) then you may >potentially have a duty to duplicate that hardware combination for future >QC testing. Or just list that setup as one that the software *won't* work with. >Obviously, you have a resource problem here. IBM can afford to basically >test almost anything imaginable (so why didn't OS/2 work on many non-IBM >platforms?) A small company can probably only afford to test on a limited >number of platforms and combinations. >I disagree. We have the capability today to set an acceptable bug level >before the release, then not release until we have reached that level. >That isn't happening in many cases. Either we aren't setting the level, >or if we are, we are shipping before we get to that point. I know of one company that is trying to do this, and you should hear the users scream about the fact that the new version isn't ready. -- Leonard Erickson leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com CIS: [70465,203] 70465.203@compuserve.com FIDO: 1:105/51 Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org (The CIS & Fido addresses are preferred)
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!psgrain!qiclab!leonard From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson) Newsgroups: comp.security.misc,comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Stupid Licenses (YUCK!) Message-ID: <1992Dec29.002107.4196@qiclab.scn.rain.com> Date: 29 Dec 92 00:21:07 GMT Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Dec29.002107.4196 References: <bhayden.724690634@teal> <1992Dec19.023609.26000@news2.cis.umn.edu> <bhayden.724865911@teal> <TDRVB3JX@cc.swarthmore.edu> <bhayden.724947398@teal> Reply-To: Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon. Lines: 49