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Article #717Re: CERT and the Dept. of Justice on keystr
From: Timothy Newsham
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 09:07
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 09:07
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In article <1992Dec12.043113.24232@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov> palmer@Trade_Zone.msfc.nasa.gov writes: > > >We must be careful not to confuse rights with privilege. > >If while visiting a friend, I used his phone and he listened in on the >conversation, I would not feel that my rights had been violated. I >would think him very rude and would not use his phone again. Now if he >were visiting me and listened in on my phone conversation, the >situation would be different. > >I have a hard time understanding how guests can make demands of their >hosts. > >It seems to be the human condition that after having been granted a >privilege for a long time, we take it for granted and begin to assume >that it is our right. ie. the "legal right" to: > - drive a car > - come and go as we please > - drink alcohol ack! if you think these are not rights I dont really know what to say.. (1) drive a car - if it doenst infringe on the rights of others then it is entirely your own business... (2) come and go as we please - as long as we dont intrude on other peoples "property". (3) drink alchohol, take drugs etc - again as long as it doesnt intrude on other peoples rights. these are all rights, the government has no place messing with things like these, maybe they make rules to make things easier for themselves and make sure other rights arent bein trampled on by you. government should not be in the business of protecting people from theirselves... ack.. this is getting way off topic, what is this stuff even doing in comp.misc.sec ? > >That came out a little more like preaching than I had hoped...so in the >interests of network bandwidth, if you strongly disagree with me, either >ignore me or flame me via E-mail > >--- >Paul (Cliffy) Palmer >E-Mail: palmer@trade_zone.msfc.nasa.gov >
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Newsgroups: comp.security.misc Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!think.com!ames!news.hawaii.edu!wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu!newsham From: newsham@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Timothy Newsham) Subject: Re: CERT and the Dept. of Justice on keystr Message-ID: <1992Dec13.090705.22164@news.Hawaii.Edu> Sender: root@news.Hawaii.Edu (News Service) Nntp-Posting-Host: wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering References: <1992Dec11.235142.3072@nntp.hut.fi> <1992Dec12.043113.24232@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 09:07:05 GMT Lines: 53