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Re: CERT and the Dept. of Justice on keystr

#717
From: Timothy Newsham
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 09:07
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In article <1992Dec12.043113.24232@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov> palmer@Trade_Zone.msfc.nasa.gov writes:
>
>
>We must be careful not to confuse rights with privilege.
>
>If while visiting a friend, I used his phone and he listened in on the
>conversation, I would not feel that my rights had been violated.  I
>would think him very rude and would not use his phone again.  Now if he
>were visiting me and listened in on my phone conversation, the
>situation would be different.
>
>I have a hard time understanding how guests can make demands of their
>hosts.
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>It seems to be the human condition that after having been granted a
>privilege for a long time, we take it for granted and begin to assume
>that it is our right. ie. the "legal right" to:
>	- drive a car
>	- come and go as we please
>	- drink alcohol

ack!  if you think these are not rights I dont really know what
to say..
(1) drive a car - if it doenst infringe on the rights of others
then it is entirely your own business...

(2) come and go as we please  -  as long as we dont intrude on
other peoples "property".  

(3) drink alchohol, take drugs etc - again as long as it doesnt
intrude on other peoples rights.   

these are all rights,  the government has no place messing
with things like these, maybe they make rules to make things
easier for themselves and make sure other rights arent
bein trampled on by you.

government should not be in the business of protecting
people from theirselves...
ack.. this is getting way off topic, what is this
stuff even doing in comp.misc.sec ?

>
>That came out a little more like preaching than I had hoped...so in the
>interests of network bandwidth, if you strongly disagree with me, either
>ignore me or flame me via E-mail
>
>---
>Paul (Cliffy) Palmer
>E-Mail: palmer@trade_zone.msfc.nasa.gov
>
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From: newsham@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Timothy Newsham)
Subject: Re: CERT and the Dept. of Justice on keystr
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