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Article #769Re: Future OS virus immunity.
From: Vesselin Bontchev
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:57
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:57
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adam@endor.uucp (Adam Shostack) writes: > available utility. While I'm not as familiar with the PC world, there > seem to be at least 50 major strains of viruses, and I don't know of > any single program which can stop all of them. :-). You are off by a factor of ten... Currently we recognize at least 592 different virus families for MS-DOS... They might be slightly more - something about 600, but you get the idea... The last time I looked, there were only about 35 different viruses for the Mac... > Does anyone care to comment on why there are so many more MS-Dos > viruses out there, and there doesn't seem to be any universally > accepted tool (like Disinfectant) to stop viruses. Or is this a false > impression because I use a mac and have taken the time to find out > about the tools available? I really don't know why there are fewer Mac viruses than MS-DOS ones... The difference in the spread of the two types of computers is not significant enough to explain the huge difference in the numbers of the existing viruses... Maybe, due to the different price, the two kinds of computers are just owned by different kinds of people... My boss says that the Mac owners love their machines (unlike the IBM PC owners who hate theirs <grin>), that's why they tend not to write destructive code from them... :-) This was a joke, please don't start a flame war. You are right that in the MS-DOS world there is no program that can stop all known viruses. The reason is that there is not such thing as "all known viruses". New viruses for the IBM PC appear everagely 2-3 per day. Nobody can update their anti-virus programs that fast. Another thing that makes me wonder is why most Mac viruses are pretty silly. OK, some of them have the equivalent of tunneling, but none of the advanced techniques used in MS-DOS like stealth, armour, slow infection, sparse infection, polymorphism, and so on are used... OK, stealth is probably not easy, having in mind how MacOS works, slow and sparce infections are not needed, since integrity checkers are not used much, but why not polymorphism? It is much easier to do with the 690x0 CPU than it is to do it with 80x86... Regards, Vesselin P.S. This discussion probably belongs to comp.virus. -- Vesselin Vladimirov Bontchev Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226 Fachbereich Informatik - AGN < PGP 2.1 public key available on request. > Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, rm. 107 C e-mail: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany
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Newsgroups: comp.security.misc Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!math.fu-berlin.de!news.netmbx.de!Germany.EU.net!rzsun2.informatik.uni-hamburg.de!fbihh!bontchev From: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev) Subject: Re: Future OS virus immunity. Message-ID: <bontchev.725824627@fbihh> Sender: news@informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Mr. News) Reply-To: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de Organization: Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg References: <eronald.725752239@ruble> <1hv07gINN3mn@rave.larc.nasa.gov> <1992Dec31.172536.16049@das.harvard.edu> Date: 31 Dec 92 17:57:07 GMT Lines: 50