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Re: CERT and the Dept. of Justice on keystr

#809
From: John de la Garrigue
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:02
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In article 22164@news.Hawaii.Edu, newsham@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Timothy Newsham) writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.043113.24232@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov> palmer@Trade_Zone.msfc.nasa.gov writes:
>>
>>
>>We must be careful not to confuse rights with privilege.

True statement.

<stuff deleted>

>
>ack!  if you think these are not rights I dont really know what
>to say..
>(1) drive a car - if it doenst infringe on the rights of others
>then it is entirely your own business...

Don't know about other states, but the State of California explicitly
states in thier driver's license policy that driving is a privilege, *not*
a right.  Just because we take it for granted does not mean we are entitled
to it.

>
>(2) come and go as we please  -  as long as we dont intrude on
>other peoples "property".  

Actually, I think this is a right guaranteed by the US government, but I could 
be wishful thinking.  Any lawyers care to confirm this?

>
>(3) drink alchohol, take drugs etc - again as long as it doesnt
>intrude on other peoples rights.   

Again, not a *right*.  The government clearly states drug use is illegal, and
which drugs can't be used or can only be used when properly prescribed.  As for
alcohol, the government restricts the age at which one can legally consume it.

>
>government should not be in the business of protecting
>people from theirselves...
>ack.. this is getting way off topic, what is this
>stuff even doing in comp.misc.sec ?
>

Good point.  Which group should this go to?

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From: jd@parcival.nwc.navy.mil (John de la Garrigue)
Subject: Re: CERT and the Dept. of Justice on keystr
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