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Re: Fun things to do to RTM (was: Internet worm)

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From: fred j mccall 575-3539
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:38
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In <1992Dec13.055137.15759@eff.org> mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin) writes:

>In article <1992Dec11.160608.29674@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:

>>>What position, specifically, is that? Graduate student?
>>
>>I know you're not this stupid, Mike, so I have to assume that this is
>>a deliberate 'cute but obfuscatory' tactic.  Color me unimpressed.
>>And unconvinced.

>It looks very much as if you are avoiding the question. If the issue
>is whether Morris should be barred from the computer industry, it should
>be noted that he was not a part of it at the time of the Internet Worm.

The point is that if someone is convicted of deliberate vehicular
homicide, the obvious situation is 'driving a vehicle', whether they
are a professional driver or not.

This is obvious to anyone with a modicum of sense, and pointing that
out is hardly 'avoiding the question'.  Whether Morris was part of
"the computer industry" isn't relevant.  I have no problem with him
working in the computer industry -- as long as what he does has
nothing to do with doing anything on computers.  I would also hardly
make this a lifetime ban, but I think a certain amount of "think about
it" time might be both useful and constructive in this kind of case.

>I strongly suggest, by the way, that folks interested in the Iernet
>Worm case read Hafner and Markoff's book CYBERPUNK, and Peter Denning's
>COMPUTERS UNDER ATTACK. It is difficult for those with actual knowledge
>about the case to obsess on punishing Morris.

Ah, once more anyone who disagrees gets the unfavorable
characterization.  It's "obsess" this time.

-- 
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Fun things to do to RTM (was: Internet worm)
Message-ID: <1992Dec14.183858.22132@mksol.dseg.ti.com>
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
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