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Article #834Re: Two hackers caught tapping into Boeing, federal computers
From: zeus
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:31
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:31
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In article <1992Nov12.084549.5128@unix.brighton.ac.uk>, ddv@unix.brighton.ac.uk (Domenico De Vitto) writes: > Any org. that has a _root_ password in _a_ dictionary gets all it deserves. > > Dom Any company that uses a braindead operating system that makes passwords readable in encrypted form in the first place is braindead. 50,000 crypts per second in FORTRAN on a Cray sounds nice. I have played with much faster machines than that though, imagine what the CRAY will do once it has the bucket of Alpha chips bolted on... say a 1024 point array running 200 Mips... Exhaustive search starts to look quite feasible. If a computer is delivered in an unsecure state IT IS THE MAUFACTURERS FAULT! We should NOT go arround patching up garbage, especialy when the garbage costs a significant amount of money. I for one don't see why I should spend time patching a $2000 operating system. It's one thing for a manufacturer to screw up and throw out a security flaw. But the open password file has been present in UNIX for ten years. AND I DO KNOW THAT A "PROTECTED" PASSWORD FILE IS NOT SAFE EITHER ! But I DO Know that it is a damn sight safer, especialy when there is a pinhead sysop. In the real world computers have to be built for pinheads. People who try to sell a product that requires intelligence to operate it are not going to sell much. I for one would rather spend my time learning about something a bit more interesting than the failings of 1970's spaghetti code operating systems. Phill Hallam-Baker With 10 years UNIX experience I have the right to say it sucks.
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Newsgroups: comp.security.misc Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!paladin.american.edu!news.univie.ac.at!hp4at!mcsun!dxcern!vxcrna.cern.ch!zeus From: zeus@vxcrna.cern.ch Subject: Re: Two hackers caught tapping into Boeing, federal computers Message-ID: <1992Nov23.003157.1@vxcrna.cern.ch> Sender: news@dxcern.cern.ch (USENET News System) Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics References: <1992Nov12.084549.5128@unix.brighton.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:31:57 GMT Lines: 41