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Re: CERT and the Dept. of Justice on keystroke monitoring

#838
From: lindstrom
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:30
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In article <Bz9DB1.LHq@avalon.nwc.navy.mil>, jd@parcival.nwc.navy.mil (John de la Garrigue) writes:
>In article 3491@nic.csu.net, oleg@gd.cs.csufresno.edu () writes:
>>In article <q50qgdg@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
>>>strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>>>
>	<stuff about keystroke monitoring notice deleted>
>>
>>Huh? If I work for company X, X automatically has full rights to read
>>my mail or search my home? Or maybe only if it officially warns me
>>about this on it's front entrance? :). 
>>
>>Oleg
>
>No, and that's clearly not what the notice is saying.  If you work for company X,
>and use their equipment for whatever reason (notice many companies clearly state
>*anything* done using their equipment/software/other resources is their
>property, like it or no), the company has a right to make sure what you are doing
>is legal and ethical.  If you don't like this type of policy, the simple answer
>is to not use someone else' machine.

I agree. I run a small system for solar research and curious about the
problem here.  Our computer is for research use only. Period.  The work
all belongs to the school (as does the machine) and all of the users are
willing to be monitored.  This may be due to to a break-in a couple of
months ago where some files were erased (no biggie.. I had back-ups), but
I will take any action at my disposal to find out what is going on on this
machine [Q: Is running "w" to see who is on an invasion of your "rights"?]
and will drop every hammer I can find on an intruder.

As for the phone, it is also for business. Sure, I use it for personal
things (call my wife to find out what time to get home by) but if someone
is making personal long distance calls, that's taking money from our
already small budget and I want to know.

Now I'm not for a police state, but it seems to me that those yelling
about their "rights" are overlooking their responsibilaties. I have read
alot about "they" (meaning the system, like me :-) should and should
not do...what about users? What standards should a system user be held
to, if any, and what measures should be allotted to insure compliance?

Looking forward to *YOUR* reply,
Greg-
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Subject: Re: CERT and the Dept. of Justice on keystroke monitoring
Message-ID: <1992Dec14.133030.804@ualr.edu>
From: lindstrom@acs.harding.edu
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:30:29 -0500
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