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Re: Two hackers caught tapping into Boeing, federal computers

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From: William Unruh
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:16
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zeus@vxcrna.cern.ch writes:

>Any company that uses a braindead operating system that makes passwords readable
>in encrypted form in the first place is braindead.


>In the real world computers have to be built for pinheads. People
>who try to sell a product that requires intelligence to operate it
>are not going to sell much.

The design of the Unix password was deliberately open so people wouldn't
think they were safe ( eg using cat as a password) when they were not.
Yes it is time that a new password algorithm were produced tha cannot be
cracked as "easily" as the unix one, but hiding the passwords isn't the
answer. ( so someone getws ahold of one of your backup tapes and there
are the passwords in all their (encrypted) glory- then what do you do.
And if you want the computer designed for pinheads, they are presumably
precisely the ones who would let someone get a copy of their backup
tape.
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From: unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh)
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Subject: Re: Two hackers caught tapping into Boeing, federal computers
Date: 24 Nov 1992 02:16:57 GMT
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