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Article #866Re: Fun things to do to RTM (was: Internet worm)
From: Mike Godwin
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:41
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:41
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In article <1992Dec14.185513.22840@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes: >No, what I cited is what the Texas law says. Whether or not sentences >on multiple charges are served concurrently or consecutively is up to >the judge. No bending of the law required. On the contrary: it would take a major bending of the way criminal law is applied in Texas for it to be applied as you suggested. >I'm simply following your logic >and doing what the law says instead of what I think would be a >'better' sentence. You seem to have confused me with someone else; I haven't made the statement you attribute to me here. >I would question this. If he was never charged under the Texas >statute, would it be double jeopardy to so charge him, even if the >same actions were charged for something else in another jurisdiction? Yes, under Texas double-jeopardy law. (The converse is not true; if Morris had been tried first in Texas, the Feds could probably prosecute him without violating double-jeopardy principles.) >[Actually, I think the real reason that this isn't feasible is that >the superior court gets jurisdiction first -- which means if the Feds >want him, they get him first. It's simply not worth dragging him >around charging him hither and yon.] What you say here about "the superior court" is inaccurate. There is no rule of this sort as to who gets jurisdiction first. >>What you have written is in accord neither with my principles nor with >>Texas criminal law. > >I believe you may be mistaken on that last one. And it certainly >seemed to flow from what your principles were complaining about. I can't figure out where you're getting this conclusion from my principles. As for what I'm saying about Texas law, well, it's always possible that the law has changed since I was admitted to the bar in Texas in 1990 (after gaining my law degree at the University of Texas School of Law). >>In the Morris case, in my opinion, the law (as interpreted by the >>government) was wrong. So your discussion here seems inapposite. > >Then you're just acting like a jerk, as usual. This looks like a non sequitur on your part. >I don't. I'm hardly the only one you've ever done this sort of crap >to, Mike. Oh, I see. You have been elected to represent a group with grievances against me. How proud you must be. --Mike Godwin, Texas Bar # 08056825 -- Mike Godwin, |"Everything one invents is true." mnemonic@eff.org| (617) 864-0665 | --Flaubert EFF, Cambridge |
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Newsgroups: comp.security.misc,comp.org.eff.talk Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!eff!mnemonic From: mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin) Subject: Re: Fun things to do to RTM (was: Internet worm) Message-ID: <1992Dec15.194112.5729@eff.org> Originator: mnemonic@eff.org Sender: usenet@eff.org (NNTP News Poster) Nntp-Posting-Host: eff.org Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation References: <1992Dec11.161745.197@mksol.dseg.ti.com> <1992Dec14.044441.25362@eff.org> <1992Dec14.185513.22840@mksol.dseg.ti.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:41:12 GMT Lines: 69