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Article #99Re: [8lgm]-Advisory-13.UNIX.SCO-login.15-Apr-1994
From: Volkmar grote
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 21:56
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 1994 21:56
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pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes: [ ... ] > I don't want to be kept in the dark with bullshit like "exploit scripts > withheld until a patch is available". I'm sad to see 8lgm reduced to > nearly worthless information now. I have 4 or 5 advisories from them > recently that seem important, but I have no way to verify and no time > to spend digging them up myself, so we're probably going to end up > vulnerable until someone who *isn't* just a wannaby and doesn't rely on > such obscurity riddled methods of communication comes along and kicks us > over. That's even more of a waste of my time than being told in advance > what the problem is and usually being able to patch it up before the > wannabes get very far with it. Wasn't one of the results of the lengthy debates on this topic to send the alert with a temporary fix first, and the explanation and exploit script later, when admins had a chance to apply the fix? In our concern's Notes conferences a merry colleague from the US just discovered alt.2600 and the like and posts it happily around the world ... (I can't flame her because I have no write permission in that conference) Cheerio Volkmar -- vg@ranahh.hanse.DE Volkmar Grote, Gilbertstrasse 25, D-22767 Hamburg, Germany, +49-40-31 33 39 "I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming in terror like his passengers." (nicked from Jim Harkins)
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