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Re: Additional complaint explanations

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From: Bill Janssen
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1990 03:04
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( I've got to see how deep we can next this... :-)

> Excerpts from andrew: 30-Jan-90 Re: Additional complaint ex.. Adam
Stoller@andrew.cmu. (2751+0)

> (please pardon the amount of excerpting, I've tried to minimize its
content here since it was just recently posted anyway)

> Excerpts from andrew: 29-Jan-90 Additional complaint explan.. Bill
Janssen@parc.xerox. (2275+0)

>>> Excerpts from andrew: 29-Jan-90 Re: some complaints... Adam
> Stoller@andrew.cmu. (5684+0)
>> - No shift-select.  .  .....

> This sound extremely confusing to me, ......

>> The notion is that you are in some application, and you want to grab
>> some stuff from some other application that is showing on your screen. 
> .........

(a) This still sounds more confusing than Cut/Copy/Paste
> (b) This doesn't sound very portable, especially in terms of
> documenting, since not all keyboards have INSERT keys (my sun3/60 for
example does not have one)
> (c) I ask again, is there an already widely available example of this
> around (on X, Next, Mac, etc.)?  or is this someone's idea of a neat way
> to do something based upon an assumed usefulness as opposed to a proven
need?
> (d) despite the sound of the above, whether it happens in Andrew or not,
> certainly doesn't involve me - I ask all these questions simply because
I'm curious.

It's actually a rather nice learned motion, available (so far as I know,
and since I'm neither the originator of this complaint nor a
shift-select fanatic, that's not very far) in Xerox ViewPoint and
Interlisp-D.  We here at PARC have only two keyboard types to worry
about, Sun Type-3 and Type-4, for Andrew.  We'd have to arbitrarily
designate keys (well, arbitrary within the limits of X).


>> Mail:

>> - No button panel or button strip on messages.

> I suppose I have a slight problem with cluttering up windows with
> buttons, but I admit the reason behind your proposal is reasonably
> sound.  Out of curiosity, where would you put these buttons when
> Messages is started with the '-w' flag ?

Probably on the bottom of the captions window.

Bill
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