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Article #1Re: NeXT Step on RS/6000?
From: Charles William Swiger
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 19:09
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 19:09
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next: 6-Oct-92 NeXT Step on RS/6000? Virtual Dave@rodan.acs.s (933) >Hi, >I once heard someone say you could run NeXTStep on an IBM RS/6000 >workstation because they both use the Mach kernal. I called >all over the country talking to NeXT and IBM, and no one seems >to have a definitive answer. Finally someone in Cambridge suggested >I ask on the net. He mentioned Carnegie Mellon in particular. > >So here it is, has anyone ported NeXTStep to another platform? >I know about NeXT working on the Intel 486 version. We have lots >of RS/6000's and just want the OS. The other platform that would be >nice is the SGI's. I would apprieciate any thoughts and would be >glad to post a summary. NeXTstep != Mach. Mach is a replacement kernel for Unix machines developed by a graduate student (avie) at Carnegie Mellon. Mach offers the same system-level functionality (ie. a standard set of about 100 system calls) as other Unix kernels, but with more efficiency, better means of inter-process communication, better support for lightweight threads and multiprocessor machines, and better virtual memory, in a smaller package. His initial version spawned the Mach project at CMU, with a lot more people working on it. NeXTs use this second major version (around v2.5, if I remember correctly). I don't know what version the RS/6000 uses. NeXTstep is an object-oriented environment consisting of a Display Postscript windowing system, Objective-C, the best development environment available on any machine (InterfaceBuilder, DPS, the AppKit, etc), and an assumption that the machine running NeXTstep satisfies a high minimal hardware functionality (8 Mb RAM, virtual memory & hardware memory protection, greater than 10 MIPS, a large display, etc). NeXTstep could probably be made to work on a non-Mach kernel, but I certainly wouldn't guarantee it. The source code to NeXTstep is a proprietary trade secret of NeXT, Inc (and probably the most valuable thing NeXT has). NeXT would have to be the ones to attempt any porting efforts to a specific machine (such as the RS/6000). NeXT supposedly has NeXTstep running on a number of machines; perhaps, if you represent a large enough opportunity, NeXT would be willing to discuss the situation with you. It can't hurt to ask; but do so to NeXT, Inc. directly-- the people on the Internet aren't going to be the ones that can give you what you're asking for. -Chuck +---------------------------------------------+ | Charles William Swiger -- CMU sucks rocks | "The television screen is the | AMS & normal mail: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | retina of the mind's eye." | NeXTmail: <temporarily out of order> | +---------------------------------------------+ --Videodrome
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Organization: Senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cis.ohio-state.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!cs4w+ Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <MeonLXO00VoiIyRV0b@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:09:23 -0400 From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: NeXT Step on RS/6000? In-Reply-To: <1992Oct6.092017.25312@newstand.syr.edu> References: <1992Oct6.092017.25312@newstand.syr.edu> Lines: 53