🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: comp.soft-sys.sas
Article #30

Re: Is mainframe an operating system or database server??

#30
From: RolandRB
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:27
37 lines
3510 bytes
howard.brazee@cusys.edu wrote:
> On 25 Oct 2005 05:11:49 -0700, "RolandRB" <rolandberry@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I'll give more information as there seems to be some confusion on this
> >issue. I worked with mainframe computers for many years. "Mainframe"
> >really means the "main frame" (as opposed to other frames that contain
> >disks and other frames that contain channels and frames that contain
> >God knows what) and is the frame that contains the main processor
> >board. These processors boards can contain many processors and these
> >processors do real processing. There will be other processors elsewhere
> >outside the "main frame" that handle I/Os and other tasks. You even
> >have processors checking on the temperature of the parts. Some of these
> >processors will make telephone calls if they detect a part has failed
> >or might fail at some time. The "main frame" literally used to be a
> >frame with things in it. It is true that these computers have got
> >smaller, but generally hundreds of users are connected to them from
> >maybe various locations remote to the computer. As such these things
> >usually need a large space and the communication cables going into them
> >can run into the hundreds and weigh tons. The room they are in will
> >need to be cooled as well. I don't know if it is still the case, but
> >when I worked with IBM mainframes, these were water cooled as well. The
> >only mainframe manufacturers I am aware of now are IBM and Amdahl and I
> >think Amdahl are really Fujitsu and Siemens.
>
> What about Unisys?    A computer doesn't have to be IBM compatible to
> be a Mainframe.
>
> Your definition seems to fit mini-computers (such as a VAX) as well.
> Heck, I've seen a PC that had all of its disk drives external - does
> that make the PC a main frame?
>
> What's the difference between a mainframe and a mini-computer?

It's got a "main frame" with the processing power in it that is not
used to do other work like I/Os.
Technical Details
Message-ID: <1130250421.501950.59380@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
References: <1130221414.142218.3000@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1130224528.043804.92300@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130242308.963873.40360@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <fdesl1535k7vjvmfphovlpnlvkdomsnd4i@4ax.com>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: 112edf,2e8ab942c71c66d4
X-Google-Thread: fd4af,2e8ab942c71c66d4
X-Google-Attributes: gid112edf,gidfd4af,public
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: "RolandRB" <rolandberry@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.sas,bit.listserv.ibm-main
Subject: Re: Is mainframe an operating system or database server??
Date: 25 Oct 2005 07:27:01 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 38
Message-ID: <1130250421.501950.59380@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
References: <1130221414.142218.3000@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>
   <1130224528.043804.92300@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
   <1130242308.963873.40360@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
   <fdesl1535k7vjvmfphovlpnlvkdomsnd4i@4ax.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.59.172.20
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1130250427 13573 127.0.0.1 (25 Oct 2005 14:27:07 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:27:07 +0000 (UTC)
In-Reply-To: <fdesl1535k7vjvmfphovlpnlvkdomsnd4i@4ax.com>
User-Agent: G2/0.2
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
X-HTTP-Via: 1.0 fujiha2.fujisawa.de:3128 (squid/2.5.STABLE5)
Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
Injection-Info: g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=194.59.172.20;
   posting-account=UZZgtQ0AAAB-2W59vuf0ttuUiLmfT80d