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Article #1911Re: a real-life patent issue. [it is not safe out there]
From: Harald Hanche-Olsen
Date: Wed, 22 May 1991 18:34
Date: Wed, 22 May 1991 18:34
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In article <19060:May2120:58:0591@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) writes: In article <a_rubin.674776385@dn71> a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com writes: > Another message in a related thread stated (quoting actual patent law) > that only using or selling is an infringement -- making a patented > invention is not infringement. This is not correct. If someone invents the bottomless soap dish and patents it, then anyone who makes, uses, or sells bottomless soap dishes is liable for infringement. I have seen many references to this "makes, uses, or sells" notion of the patent law, and it still has me somewhat confused. Is there no definition of what is meant by "making" and "using", or maybe exceptions stated in the law? The reason I am asking is this: I had always thought it is ok to "make and use" a patented invention for the purpose of exploring the patent and its applications. Thus, if my understanding is correct, we could all implement RSA, and we could have a friendly competition over who makes the most efficient implementation and so on, as long as we do not USE the system in the sense of storing and/or transmitting encrypted data. If we do the latter, we infringe. But by just exploring the possibilities, we do not. Have I got it wrong? If I do, I have another question. If a professor gives a lecture in which she fires up Maple and steps through the encryption/decryption parts of RSA as a demonstration, does she then infringe?? Where is the limit to what you can do? Just asking because I am confused - RSA isn't patented in my parts of the world, so this doesn't really concern me directly... - Harald Hanche-Olsen <hanche@imf.unit.no> Division of Mathematical Sciences The Norwegian Institute of Technology N-7034 Trondheim, NORWAY
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!think.com!mintaka!bloom-beacon!eru!kth.se!ugle.unit.no!hanche From: hanche@imf.unit.no (Harald Hanche-Olsen) Newsgroups: comp.sources.d,sci.crypt Subject: Re: a real-life patent issue. [it is not safe out there] Message-ID: <HANCHE.91May22203428@hufsa.imf.unit.no> Date: 22 May 91 18:34:28 GMT References: <22734@yunexus.YorkU.CA> <1991May17.144807.29903@hellgate.utah.edu> <a_rubin.674776385@dn71> <19060:May2120:58:0591@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> Sender: news@ugle.unit.no Organization: The Norwegian Institute of Technology, Trondheim, Norway. Lines: 34 In-Reply-To: brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu's message of 21 May 91 20:58:05 GMT