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Re: Security, not obscurity.

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From: Ed Braaten
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 1990 11:50
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In article <LYNDON.90Apr5115012@orthanc.AthabascaU.CA> lyndon@cs.AthabascaU.CA (Lyndon Nerenberg) writes:
>
>I thought once upon a time that a moderated newsgroup would be a
>good way to disseminate information about system security. The
>few times this has been mentioned there seemed to be considerable
>opposition to it. Due to the nature of some of the material that
>would be posted I can see how some system administrators would be
>a bit nervous about all their users having access to the information.

Of course I would be nervous, but it is my responsibility to protect 
my users by applying this information.  How can I do this if I don't
have the info?

>However, I don't consider burying ones head in the sand as a good
>way of dealing with system security issues. 

I don't either.  And as has already been stated by several others,
most of us doing system administration duties don't have the time
to try to find all the security holes in our systems.  I am thankful
for any tips I can get on potential security problems.

>
>Perhaps the net is now ready for a moderated security newsgroup
>in the alt heirarchy. This allows sites to join into the discussion
>by their own choosing, rather than at the whim of a mailing list
>maintainer. Paranoid folks could ignore the problem by not subscribing.
>
>Comments?

I would like to see this happen.  Hiding the information is nonsense!
I'm 100% for such a newsgroup.


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From: ed@braaten.doit.sub.org (Ed Braaten)
Newsgroups: comp.sources.d,news.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Security, not obscurity.
Summary: An open discussion would benefit us all.
Message-ID: <635@braaten.doit.sub.org>
Date: 9 Apr 90 11:50:16 GMT
References: <16900@well.sf.ca.us> <1990Mar29.055350.2922@Jhereg.Minnetech.MN.ORG> <1105@rwing.UUCP> <2364@sialis.mn.org> <LYNDON.90Apr51150
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Organization: Systems Engineering, Intel GmbH, Munich, West Germany
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