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Article #1411Re: Nested functions (was: Re: Zero-length structures and pointer comparisons)
From: Jim Adcock
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 19:32
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 19:32
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In article <4048@hpwala.wal.hp.com> pabloh@hpwala.wal.hp.com (Pablo Halpern ) writes: |Absolute orderings are a slightly different matter. In the case of < and |>, one might expect a significant performance improvement if the pointers |are assumed to point into the same array, since the segment part can be |ignored even for far pointers. A ptrcmp() function might be worthwhile and |should present no special implementation problems for segmented |architectures. However, systems (like the lisp machine) where pointers |change behind the program's back DO present a problem since the |bit-pattern-based ordering could change even if the equality/inequality |property does not change. This would argue against *requiring* a ptrcmp() |function. Except some OS's using segmented architectures implement movable segments, in which case the problem becomes the same as lisp machines -- "pointers change behind the programmers back" My claim is that in either of these cases the pointers *aren't* changing -- they still point at the same objects. What is changing is the underlying implementation of the pointer, which is an implementation issue not a language issue. Casting pointers to and from int remains as always implementation dependent. The only issue in question is whether we should introduce a new requirement on OS's that the OS must maintain a total ordering on their objects. Clearly IMHO this would represent a stumbling block to many OS's, such a the lisp machines, movable segment OS's and OO databases. Making such a new requirement on C++ would make C++ not reasonably portable to these systems. The question then is whether or not the standard C++ language should exist on such machines.
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Newsgroups: comp.std.c++ Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!microsoft!wingnut!jimad From: jimad@microsoft.com (Jim Adcock) Subject: Re: Nested functions (was: Re: Zero-length structures and pointer comparisons) Message-ID: <1993Jan06.193256.6590@microsoft.com> Date: 06 Jan 93 19:32:56 GMT Organization: Microsoft Corporation References: <1992Dec16.150144.6004@ucc.su.OZ.AU> <BzDJHu.t2@fru <4048@hpwala.wal.hp.com> Lines: 27