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Re: Stuff C++ needs

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From: Dick Menninger
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 1995 10:10
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> ==========Matt Austern, 11/30/95==========
 
> The real standardization issue here is that the standard class library
> doesn't include any multidimensional array classes; I find that
> unfortunate, since multidimensional arrays are widely useful.
> Presumably most compiler vendors will provide them, even if the
> standard doesn't require them to; maybe we can hope for a de facto
> standard version.

I have a stronger hope that a committee will form
that includes compiler vendor representation for the
purpose of establishing a forum for making up front
de facto standard additions.  Having them agree
(rather than war over things that should ultimately
end up in the next revision of the real stanard upteen
years from now) would benefit all.

As far as STL is concerned, there are many things
that seem to have missed only because of time.
It is incomplete as a result.  Some of those would
start the effort.  Of course, additional stuff would
follow including changes (possibly in a distinct
namespace) to existing stuff that was found to
miss the newly perceived mark.  This is needed
at minimum.

Such a committee could even take on language
extensions and fixups so that those have more
commonality.  If fixing the exception mechanism
is seen as new rather than clenaup by the committee,
then this would need attention by the less formal
forum.  It would likely give rise to the defacto
language going beyond the standard time-wise,
but that seems to be the norm in most standards
efforts.  Look at SCSI standards for an example
of the real world moving faster than the standards
process.  It can be done.  There are probably
even better examples out there.  But for SCSI
standards, the defacto effort seems part of the
formal effort, at least during the more recent
stages (the earlier stages were more like the
war approach).

Good Day
Dick
Dick.Menninger@DaytonOH.ATTGIS.COM



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Date: 02 Dec 1995 10:10:48 GMT
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