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Article #2922Re: stop adding keywords to C++
From: Tim Hollebeek
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 17:55
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 17:55
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In article <MATT.95Dec13025435@Austern>, Matt Austern <matt@physics.berkeley.edu> wrote: >In article <4alt1o$13a2@news.ccit.arizona.edu> jychen@aruba.ccit.arizona.edu (Joseph Y Chen) writes: > >> I have not objection to boolean type. But those added key words like >> and, or, xor, etc, just make C/C++ awful, reminding me of Basic which >> has far too many key wods. I agree that people using C/C++ aren't fools >> and they don't need those added key words. > >People using C++ aren't necessarily fools; also, though, they aren't >necessarily Americans. The alternative tokens (which aren't quite the >same as keywords) were added to C++ because some C++ operators use >characters that exist in ASCII but not in other national character >sets. > >Alternative tokens, in other words, solve the same problem that >trigraphs do. Personally, though, I think that alternative >tokens are a much nicer solution. I'd much rather read an >expression like "i < 0 or i >= n" than one like "i < 0 ??!??! i >= n". I disagree. In C++, already, identifiers are highly overloaded, since there is nothing to distinguish typenames from variables (and, of course, globals/locals/member variables aren't distinguished either). Secondly, the C++ syntax is such that it is difficult to tell at first glance the difference between an expression and a declaration, especially since they can be freely intermixed. something_or_other name = some < nasty_expression; something_or_other_name = some < nasty_expression; This is especially true when using templates, when the typename can be rather complex itself. In C++, it is important to have a style which makes these things easy to pick out, or your code is hard to read. Personally, I capitalize types, and tab declarations so they stand out: SomethingOrOther name = some < nasty_expression; something_or_other_name = some < nasty_expression; Now back to the issue at hand. Having lots of keywords makes this problem even worse, unless you have an editor that can highlight them automatically for you. The are simply too hard to pick out by eye. && is much easier to see and recognize than 'and' is. -- Tim Hollebeek | Everything above is a true statement, for sufficiently PChem Grad Student | false values of true. Princeton Univ. | tim@wfn-shop.princeton.edu -------------------| http://wfn-shop.princeton.edu/~tim [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. Submission address: std-c++@ncar.ucar.edu. Contact address: std-c++-request@ncar.ucar.edu. The moderation policy is summarized in http://dogbert.lbl.gov/~matt/std-c++/policy.html. ]
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM!taumet!clamage From: tim@franck.Princeton.EDU (Tim Hollebeek) Newsgroups: comp.std.c++ Subject: Re: stop adding keywords to C++ Date: 13 Dec 1995 17:55:57 GMT Organization: Princeton University Approved: clamage@eng.sun.com (comp.std.c++) Message-ID: <4an1nq$5s0@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951203010216.13007A-100000@barney> <4a12d7$vps@mujibur.inmind.com> <4alt1o$13a2@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <MATT.95Dec13025435@Austern> NNTP-Posting-Host: taumet.eng.sun.com Content-Type: text X-Nntp-Posting-Host: franck.princeton.edu Content-Length: 2381 X-Lines: 48 Originator: clamage@taumet