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Re: Streams and eof()

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From: J. Kanze
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 17:08
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In article <4hkean$mrc@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> clamage@Eng.Sun.COM (Steve
Clamage) writes:

|> No, it must work. EOF is required to have a value different from every
|> character value.

Where does it say this?  (It's what I always thought too, until a recent
discussion in comp.std.c proved me otherwise, at least for C.)

It is indirectly required if INT_MAX >= UCHAR_MAX, at least for fgetc in
C, but if int's and char's are the same size, all bets are off.

By `character value', I presume you mean a value that can be returned by
a successful read, since the original question concerned using
istream::peek and istream::get for binary input.  Although even for
character (non-binary) input, I can see no guarantees once one leaves
the "C" locale.

|> The character-reading functions that can return either
|> a character or EOF return a type that that can represent the EOF value
|> as distinct from any character value.

This is definitly not the case in ISO C, and I can find no such
guarantee in the current draft either, although in this case, it might
be a simple oversight.  Again, there is some ambiguity in your use of
the word character: imagine a 16 bit machine with sizeof( int ) ==
sizeof( char ) == 1, using Unicode as its native character code.
Unicode explicitly doesn't use 0xFFFF (-1) as a legal code, so if EOF is
-1 (a frequent implementation), there is no problem with reading
`characters'.  Reading a `char' from a file opened in binary mode is
still a problem, however.

|> In a traditional implementation, EOF has the int value -1, and characters
|> have 8-bit values. The peek function returns the character value promoted
|> to type int without sign extension, as if by the cast sequence
|> 	(int)(unsigned char)the_value
|> Such a value cannot compare equal to the int value -1.

I suspect that a lot of code developed on a traditional implementation
will break on a machine where all integral types are the same length.
(I know that a lot of mine would.  Even in the parts I thought I wrote
portably.)
-- 
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From: kanze@gabi-soft.fr (J. Kanze)
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