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Re: Constructors and conversion operator

#3753
From: Roman Lechtchinsky
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 07:48
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Steve Clamage wrote:
> 
> In article 76E5@cs.tu-berlin.de, Roman Lechtchinsky <wolfro@cs.tu-berlin.de>
> writes:
> >
> >The DWP defines:
> >
> >A constructor declared without the  function-specifier  explicit  that
> >  can  be called with a single parameter specifies a conversion from the
> >  type of its first parameter to the type of its  class. [class.conv.ctor]
> >
> >Now, to me this means that a copy constructor is a converting constructor
> >since it takes a single parameter which is a reference to an object of the
> >class ( I don't think that this is intended ).
> 
> I don't think it matters. The conversion is the identity conversion. In
> places where conversions are required, there is almost always more than
> one way to achieve the conversion. (Often there is an infinite number
> of possible conversion sequences, such as short->int->short->int->
> short->...->int.) The explicit rule in such cases is to choose the
> shortest possible sequence of conversions.
>
> Suppose a copy constructor T::T(const T&) is viewed as a conversion
> from T to T. If such a conversion is "needed", the shortest conversion
> sequence must be chosen. That would be the null sequence, and so the
> copy ctor would never be used or even considered for that purpose.
> (Just as the sequence int->Rational->float would never be considered in
> converting an int to a float.)

I'm not too sure here. First, if the copy constructor is the identity 
conversion, why is it called at all? I mean, if the identity conversion is 
eliminated from the conversion sequence, why isn't the call to the copy 
constructor itself eliminated? Second, if the copy constructor is called, why 
is it called only once? Consider

class A { A(const A&); };
void foo(A);
A a;

Now, foo(a) is implicitly converted to foo(A(a)). Why not to foo(A(A(a))? 
Clearly, if the copy constructor is a conversion which has to be performed on 
a, it *is* performed and it is performed only once, since no conversion is 
needed thereafter. If the copy constructor is not a conversion, things get 
complicated. 
Actually, I can't agree that the copy constructor is the identity conversion. 
It is a conversion from a reference to the referenced type, i.e. from A& to A 
in this case. A& and A are two different types and the DWP doesn't say that a 
conversion from A& to A (i.e. the copy constructor) isn't a conversion or is 
to be eliminated from the conversion sequence or whatever... It just isn't 
stated explicitly, probably because everybody knows it. I think this is the 
problem.

Bye

Roman
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