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Re: Packing, Ordering, and Rearranging

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From: Kent Paul Dolan
Date: Sat, 06 Oct 1990 13:34
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henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
> xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) writes:
>>... The convenience of compiler writers should not
>>be an issue. Whether something is possible at all, or only
>>possible with an NP complete computation, is admissible as an
>>argument, but not the compiler writer's mere convenience, where
>>that is gained at the expense of the compiler user.
>
>This fine idealistic viewpoint ignores the realities of the standards
>world.  A standard is useful only if it is widely accepted.  It cannot
>become widely accepted without support from compiler writers.  Trying
>to ram things down the compiler writers' throats with standards simply
>does not work; all it does is eliminate the usefulness of the standard.

I offer the Ada language as an absolute counterexample to your argument.

Kent, the man from xanth.
<xanthian@Zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> <xanthian@well.sf.ca.us>
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From: xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan)
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Subject: Re: Packing, Ordering, and Rearranging
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Date: 6 Oct 90 13:34:25 GMT
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