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In article <3v0cac$46g@News1.mcs.net>, jim.fleming@bytes.com (Jim Fleming) writes:
> In article <3urhoc$kpu@info1.sdrc.com>, scjones@thor.sdrc.com says...
> >In general, some of the attendees are X3J11 members, some are parts of
> >official delegations to the WG14 meeting, some are non-members.  X3J11
> >has an official attendance list referred to above that lists each
> >member, who they represent, and their membership status (an
> >organization may have one principal member and as many alternates as
> >they desire, only one is allowed to vote; members are not entitled to
> >vote unless a representative has attended at least two of the last
> >three meetings; observing members are never entitled to vote).  This is
> >a physical piece of paper that is circulated at the meeting and each
> >member marks that they are attending and whether they are voting or
> >not.  A copy of this sheet is attached to the printed minutes, but it
> >is not included in the electronic copy (sorry).
> @@@@@@@
> 
> Is the sheet so cryptic that it can not be translated to ASCII...???
> Should we scan it an post it on a Web page...???
> 	I have an HP 3C which I will be happy to donate to the cause...:+)

No, but remember that the minutes are really internal documentation.  I
can understand that you (and undoubtedly others) would prefer complete
transcripts, but, frankly, that's not our job.  The minutes are
recorded by a volunteer secretary who, like the rest of the committee,
has a day job.  Minutes get done in his or her spare time and you get
what you get.  I'll do my best to pass on the information I get, but
I'm not about to promise to do more work myself, nor am I going to ask
other volunteers on the committee to do so.  If you would like to make
polite suggestions, I would be happy to pass them on.

Now, since I'm feeling generous, I will manually transcribe the
relevent information from the Copenhagen meeting.  I've added
parenthetical comments noting official positions held by various people
and I've done my best to make sense of the various affiliations listed
by the WG14 attendees.  Representatives whose names are in square
brackets are people who usually come to meetings but were not in
attendence in Denmark.  Note that the US delegation is made up of a few
volunteers from X3J11.  Also note that this has very little to do with
C++ anymore, so I've removed comp.std.c++ from the Newsgroups: above. 
Finally, note that X3 has a web page at http://www.x3.org/ with lots of
information about Information Systems standards, including the member
lists for all of the subcommittees (e.g. X3J11 and X3J16).

X3J11 Member		Voting	Representative
---------------------	------	--------------
Convex				[Randy Meyer]
Cray			 Yes	Tom MacDonald	(vice chair)
DEC Professional	 Yes	Rex Jaeschke	(chair)
Digital Equipment	 Yes	Randy Meyers	(acting secretary)
Farance Inc		 Yes	Frank Farance	(ISO project editor)
Hewlett-Packard		 Yes	John Kwan
IBM Corp		 Yes	Dave Mooney
Keaton			 Yes	David Keaton
Motorola		 Yes	Ted Van Sickle
OSF
Perennial		 Yes	John Benito	(international rep)
Plum Hall		 Yes	Tom Plum	(C++ liason)
RG Consulting			[Ron Guilmette]
SDRC				[Larry Jones]
Sun			 Yes	Douglas Walls
Taligent		 Yes	Jim Thomas
Tydeman				[Fred Tydeman]
Unisys				[Johnathan Ziebel]
US Army				[Doug Gwyn]
Watcom

WG14 Member		Representative
---------------------	--------------
-			P. J. Plauger (convener)
USA			John Benito
			Tom Plum
			David Keaton
			Frank Farance
			Douglas Walls
Denmark			Peter Cordsen
			Keld Simonson
Germany			Jutta Degener
Netherlands(?)		Ed Keizer
UK			Neil Martin
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