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In article <3vlsbc$1ui@info1.sdrc.com>, scjones@thor.sdrc.com says...
>
>In article <3v0cac$46g@News1.mcs.net>, jim.fleming@bytes.com (Jim Fleming) 
writes:
>> In article <3urhoc$kpu@info1.sdrc.com>, scjones@thor.sdrc.com says...
>> >In general, some of the attendees are X3J11 members, some are parts of
>> >official delegations to the WG14 meeting, some are non-members.  X3J11
>> >has an official attendance list referred to above that lists each
>> >member, who they represent, and their membership status (an
>> >organization may have one principal member and as many alternates as
>> >they desire, only one is allowed to vote; members are not entitled to
>> >vote unless a representative has attended at least two of the last
>> >three meetings; observing members are never entitled to vote).  This is
>> >a physical piece of paper that is circulated at the meeting and each
>> >member marks that they are attending and whether they are voting or
>> >not.  A copy of this sheet is attached to the printed minutes, but it
>> >is not included in the electronic copy (sorry).
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>> Is the sheet so cryptic that it can not be translated to ASCII...???
>> Should we scan it an post it on a Web page...???
>>       I have an HP 3C which I will be happy to donate to the cause...:+)
>
>No, but remember that the minutes are really internal documentation.  I
>can understand that you (and undoubtedly others) would prefer complete
>transcripts, but, frankly, that's not our job.  The minutes are
>recorded by a volunteer secretary who, like the rest of the committee,
>has a day job.  Minutes get done in his or her spare time and you get
>what you get.  I'll do my best to pass on the information I get, but
>I'm not about to promise to do more work myself, nor am I going to ask
>other volunteers on the committee to do so.  If you would like to make
>polite suggestions, I would be happy to pass them on.
>
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Would you be willing to tape record (or video tape) the meeting...???
then I or others can have the tapes transcribed into text...

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>Now, since I'm feeling generous, I will manually transcribe the
>relevent information from the Copenhagen meeting.
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You certainly are generous...thanks...
	I think that there are many people around the world that can
	benefit from you open and straight-forward approach...
	Thanks again...
		also...for blind people who read the net via translations
		to speech...they thank you...
		for the handicapped people that read the net using soda
		straws to pick items...they thank you...
	Keep up the good work...

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>I've added
>parenthetical comments noting official positions held by various people
>and I've done my best to make sense of the various affiliations listed
>by the WG14 attendees.  Representatives whose names are in square
>brackets are people who usually come to meetings but were not in
>attendence in Denmark.
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Do you suppose the travel costs kept people away...???
	Are any of those people handicapped...???
		would equal access prevent them from attending...???

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>Note that the US delegation is made up of a few
>volunteers from X3J11.  Also note that this has very little to do with
>C++ anymore, so I've removed comp.std.c++ from the Newsgroups: above.
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THE C++ ANSI COMMITTEE COULD LEARN A LOT FROM YOUR APPROACH....

NOTE...once more...just in case they missed it...
	
	THE C++ ANSI COMMITTEE COULD LEARN A LOT FROM YOUR APPROACH....

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>Finally, note that X3 has a web page at http://www.x3.org/ with lots of
>information about Information Systems standards, including the member
>lists for all of the subcommittees (e.g. X3J11 and X3J16).
>
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GREAT!!!!!! Usenet and the Web...thank whomever did the work....
		they should get credit here...

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>X3J11 Member            Voting  Representative
>---------------------   ------  --------------
>Convex                          [Randy Meyer]
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Not the same as Randy Meyers below...???
	It would be odd if one attended and one did not
	if they were the same person...note, that in Chicago
	this happens in elections all of the time...but not
	in ISO/ANSI...
>Cray                     Yes    Tom MacDonald   (vice chair)
>DEC Professional         Yes    Rex Jaeschke    (chair)
>Digital Equipment        Yes    Randy Meyers    (acting secretary)
>Farance Inc              Yes    Frank Farance   (ISO project editor)
>Hewlett-Packard          Yes    John Kwan
>IBM Corp                 Yes    Dave Mooney
>Keaton                   Yes    David Keaton
>Motorola                 Yes    Ted Van Sickle
>OSF
>Perennial                Yes    John Benito     (international rep)
>Plum Hall                Yes    Tom Plum        (C++ liason)
>RG Consulting                   [Ron Guilmette]
>SDRC                            [Larry Jones]
>Sun                      Yes    Douglas Walls
>Taligent                 Yes    Jim Thomas
>Tydeman                         [Fred Tydeman]
>Unisys                          [Johnathan Ziebel]
>US Army                         [Doug Gwyn]
>Watcom
>
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To clarify...voting above gets a Yes if the person has attended 2 of
the last 3 meetings...???....is that the rule...???

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>WG14 Member             Representative
>---------------------   --------------
>-                       P. J. Plauger (convener)
>USA                     John Benito
>                        Tom Plum
>                        David Keaton
>                        Frank Farance
>                        Douglas Walls
>Denmark                 Peter Cordsen
>                        Keld Simonson
>Germany                 Jutta Degener
>Netherlands(?)          Ed Keizer
>UK                      Neil Martin
>----
>Larry Jones, SDRC, 2000 Eastman Dr., Milford, OH  45150-2789  513-576-2070
>larry.jones@sdrc.com
>(Note: news takes forever to get here -- if you want a quick reply, email)
>I don't need to improve!  Everyone ELSE does! -- Calvin
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Did you miss something...???

	What is the country for P.J. Plauger....???

	Also, P. J. Plauger is not listed in the first list...

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