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Article #210Re: Dutch IJ
From: herman.r.silbiger
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 1991 02:05
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 1991 02:05
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In article <8954@star.cs.vu.nl>, keie@cs.vu.nl (Keizer E G) writes: > > Yes indeed, the initial/first names do not count at all. > Their rules go a bit far. There are a few words in Dutch where the "ij" > does nor represent a single vowel. One such word is "bijoux" which > is pronounced "be-shoe". Even for these words the "ij" to "y" mapping > is used. > The following is an extract of the current Amsterdam telephone book: > > bynen-bijl, a. van, kortvoort 100/k522 > bijoux goudcentje, reguliersbreestraat 30 > byrne, j p, plantage dokln 6/3 > bijrne, m, van speykstr 2/hs > byrne, a c, waalstr 145/hs > > > Ed Keizer > Vakgroep Wiskunde en Informatica > Vrije Universiteit > Amsterdam It is fortunate for Ed Keizer that the Dutch phone books, which do not distinguish between ij and y, since they sound the same, do not sort phonetically when it comes to the ei, as in Keizer. In Dutch, ei and ij are pronounced the same. Herman Silbiger > The Netherlands
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnewsj!cbnewsi!hrs1 From: hrs1@cbnewsi.att.com (herman.r.silbiger) Newsgroups: comp.std.internat Subject: Re: Dutch IJ Summary: phonetic sorting Message-ID: <1991Feb7.020517.29153@cbnewsi.att.com> Date: 7 Feb 91 02:05:17 GMT References: <7944@plains.NoDak.edu> <8954@star.cs.vu.nl> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 29