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Article #317Re: Data tagging (was: 8-bit representation, plus an X problem)
From: Masataka Ohta
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 17:58
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 17:58
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In article <24479@alice.att.com> andrew@alice.att.com (Andrew Hume) writes: > however, as i hinted and perhaps should have emphasised, >plan 9 does not address i18n as such. although support for large >or alternate characters is a prerequisite to i18n, you need a bunch more. Surely. >Locales, in this sense, are a complete and utter mistake. >don't misunderstand me, they are totally wrong as well. I agree with you. > the more insidious problem is that a bunch of the locale functionality >(and certainly most of the stuff about language and scripts) is >bound tightly to the data, and not to the processing of it. for example, >japanese better get rendered as japanese no matter what your locale is. I heard that, microsoft's NT will have a locale mechanism so that it can print Japanes Han as Japanese and Chinese Han as Chinese, which is impossible with bare 10646/Unicode. Then, how can we have a file containing both Japanese and Chinese? >another example is the issue of system error messages; what language >(for example) should they be in? >customer satisfaction is high >until the first time someone attaches a file server with dutch language >errors, follows a sym link through a file server attached with french >messages, and the file doesn't exist. Shouldn't we use error numbers internally and interprete it by local programs? Masataka Ohta
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!crdgw1!rpi!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!sh.wide!wnoc-tyo-news!cs.titech!titccy.cc.titech!necom830!mohta From: mohta@necom830.cc.titech.ac.jp (Masataka Ohta) Newsgroups: comp.std.internat Subject: Re: Data tagging (was: 8-bit representation, plus an X problem) Message-ID: <2563@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp> Date: 27 Dec 92 17:58:37 GMT References: <24426@alice.att.com| <1gpruaINNhfm@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> <ISHIKAWA.92Dec22180817@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp> <24479@alice.att.com> Sender: news@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp Organization: Tokyo Institute of Technology Lines: 37