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Re: Dumb Americans (was INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST)

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From: Tapani Tarvainen
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 11:56
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In article <1i0s05INNnfn@rodan.UU.NET> avg@rodan.UU.NET (Vadim Antonov) writes:

>A good encoding should support easy (i'd say natural) localization.
>It should provide simple algorithms for simple functions
>like getting string length, searching a character, case-insensitive
>comparison, lexicographical comparison.

>Unicode (and for that matter Plan 9 UTF) does not support the last
>two mentioned functions. I have yet to see Plan 9 _sort_ which will
>sort Russian strings without being told explicitly that it is Russian.

So what?
I've yet to see anything even planned that would allow sorting
both Finnish and German without being told which is wanted.  
In fact I can't even imagine one that would make any sense.
In the case of a list of names, the very same data could be
sorted differently depending on where it is going to be used.

Tying sorting rules to character sets is not a good idea, IMHO.
--
Tapani Tarvainen  (tt@math.jyu.fi, tarvainen@finjyu.bitnet)
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Subject: Re: Dumb Americans (was INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST)
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