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Re: Dumb Americans (was INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST)

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From: peter da silva
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 23:19
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In article <1i13rrINNars@rodan.UU.NET> avg@rodan.UU.NET (Vadim Antonov) writes:
> We were talking about lexicographical sorting, not abouth phonetics.

But lexicographic sorting (actually, lexicograhic ordering) is a minor part of
this. Most sorting computers do is algorithmic ordering, to optimise some
combination of operations on data structures (searching, for example). The
character set is irrelevant there.

> Then you KNOW that it is compressed graphical format -- which is
> essentially useless in anything except for storing and then reproduction
> of the text.

Yes.

> What makes encoded text useful is that its encoding extracts
> some SEMANTIC allowing for mechanical processing (particularly sorting).

OK, I want a character set that differentiates a word (if) between a C language
keyword (if(...)), command line options (dd if=...), and English text (if you
pass this way again...).

I want a character set that differentiates between parts of speech.

I want a character set that differentiates between running text, "quoted
running text", EMPHASISED RUNNING TEXT, references(1), Proper Nouns, and
<courier>computer text</courier>.

You don't want a character set. You want an SGML DTD.

> The semantic in ASCII is hard-coded -- it is the order of letters
> and the trivial upper-case to lower-case convertion.

<para><sentence><phrase>The semantic in <acronym>ASCII</> is <jargon>
hard-coded</></><dash><phrase>it is the <phrase>order of letters</>
and <phrase>the trivial <jargon>upper-case</> to <jargon>lower-case</>
conversion</></></sentence></para>
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From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
Subject: Re: Dumb Americans (was INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST)
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Keywords: ISO10646 Unicode
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