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Article #367Re: Dumb Americans (was INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST)
From: Dik T. Winter
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 01:41
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 01:41
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In article <1i2ommINN5uh@rodan.UU.NET> avg@rodan.UU.NET (Vadim Antonov) writes: > In article <DwqPwB3w165w@blues.kk.sub.org> kosta@blues.kk.sub.org (Kosta Kostis) writes: > >> defined rules for cross-sorting (unlike latters WITHIN one > >> meta-alphabet; you CAN sort English and German words together > >> and it still will make sense; > > > >Why do you think it would make sense? > > It's easy, Watson. Names, for example. Or (a case from my practice) > -- there is a lot of commercial enterprises in Moscow with English > names (moda, i guess). Then, i've got to sort the list. > The KOI-8 sorting produced a list contained all Russian names > in alphabetical order and then all English in alpabetical order > which was exactly what was desired. You are confused about a few things. Unicode will help your sorting Cyrillic names and Latin names just fine. It has separate coding points for the complete Cyrillic alphabet. You are mixing soring with different scripts and sorting different languages. The latter makes no sense if you use for each word the place it should occupy in its native language (especially for loan-words). > > >It won't make sense. Lexical sorting makes only sense, if at all, in > >*one* single language. > > See before. See before, you give different scripts not different languages. -- dik t. winter, cwi, kruislaan 413, 1098 sj amsterdam, nederland home: bovenover 215, 1025 jn amsterdam, nederland; e-mail: dik@cwi.nl
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!pipex!bnr.co.uk!uknet!mcsun!sun4nl!cwi.nl!dik From: dik@cwi.nl (Dik T. Winter) Newsgroups: comp.std.internat Subject: Re: Dumb Americans (was INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST) Keywords: Han Kanji Katakana Hirugana ISO10646 Unicode Codepages Message-ID: <8499@charon.cwi.nl> Date: 2 Jan 93 01:41:14 GMT References: <1hu9v5INNbp1@rodan.UU.NET> <DwqPwB3w165w@blues.kk.sub.org> <1i2ommINN5uh@rodan.UU.NET> Sender: news@cwi.nl Organization: CWI, Amsterdam Lines: 30