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Article #426Re: 8-bit news
From: Vadim Antonov
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:20
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:20
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In article <CKD.92Dec15161747@loiosh.eff.org> ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes: >The "nonsense" is assuming that "just sending 8 bits" will work in the face >of these software issues. There are three ways to send 8-bit email through >SMTP: > >1) make agreements to "just send 8 bits". Works within an enclave. > >2) extend SMTP in some way to be guaranteed 8-bit compatible. > >3) "just send it and hope it gets there okay." > >The problem is that (1) tends to generalize into (3)...where the real >solution is (2). Look, if you're not using anything but ASCII "just send 8 bits" works just fine. If you have an old software and want to get extended character set you can't do it anyway, right? "Just send 8 bits" is the proper superset of "just send 7 bits" -- exactly the same as adding new header fields. It breaks nothing as long as you do not use extensions. >I'm certainly not insensitive to the needs of languages that don't fit in >USASCII. However, I'm also not insensitive to the needs of sites that >could care less about 8-bit characters, have vendor-supplied software that >blows up on 8-bit data, and aren't prepared to upgrade immediately. If the vendor-software crashes on, say, a file with 1025-byte line it's a bug, isn't it? If a program craches on ANYTHING it's a bug. A bug is a bug is a bug. Call their tech support and have them to fix it. >As soon as there's a compatible SMTP extension for 8 bits, I'll at least >try to hack it into my mailer (assuming the UIUC IDA sendmail folks don't >beat me to it). "Just send 8 bits" *is* backward compatible. Check your logic. >But I won't install anything that tries to pull a Nike and >"Just Do It" to some unsuspecting mailer somewhere. Then why on the Earth did you upgrade your software the last time? --vadim "Not only is UNIX dead, it's starting to smell bad." -- Rob Pike
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!not-for-mail From: avg@rodan.UU.NET (Vadim Antonov) Newsgroups: comp.std.internat,news.admin.misc Subject: Re: 8-bit news Date: 15 Dec 1992 18:20:45 -0500 Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA Lines: 46 Message-ID: <1glp8dINN4sc@rodan.UU.NET> References: <Bz9Bw3.2I6@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <89RsVB3w165w@blues.kk.sub.org> <CKD.92Dec15161747@loiosh.eff.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net