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Article #456Re: 8-bit representation, plus an X problem
From: Randall Atkinson
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:37
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:37
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In article <24424@alice.att.com> andrew@alice.att.com (Andrew Hume) writes: > > > i appear to have confused randall a tad. the UTF-2 encoding >requires 8 bit transmission. Thanks. That is OK. If I have an enhanced SMTP, I can send 8-bits that using enhanced SMTP way and so UTF-2 is fine. If not, I can encode UTF-2 using BASE64 into a 7-bit-safe transmission format and send it over existing SMTP links while still being fully MIME compliant either way. > i am puzzled why people want to do 8859-* as an intermediate step. >it seems clear to me that if you can get the damn bits through, >you may as well do UTF-2, particularly as there is a well-defined >invertible mapping between 10646 and all the 8859-* character sets. There are several explanations. These are all pragmatic explanations, not technical justifications: 1) There is a fairly decent sized installed base of ISO-8859-* terminals. 2) Many people don't understand that the transmission encoding and the presentation encodings only need to be convertible and do not necessarily have to be identical. 3) ISO-10646 was not finished when MIME finished and ISO-10646 had failed to be passed once already and it wasn't clear how long it would take for ISO to finish it. Under IETF/IESG rules, an RFC can only cite existing works not "works in progress" such as a pending ISO standard that has not been approved. There was desire not to have MIME publication be dependent on ISO getting their act together. NB: When MIME progresses towards full-standard status, I fully expect ISO-10646 to be specifically cited and its use to be encouraged. ASIDE: I wish Microsoft had thought about this as much as you all at Bell Labs did. It would be better if everyone used UTF-2 (IMHO). Ran atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil
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Newsgroups: comp.std.internat,news.admin.misc Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!psuvax1!atlantis.psu.edu!wintermute.phys.psu.edu!ra!atkinson From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson) Subject: Re: 8-bit representation, plus an X problem Message-ID: <BzErA7.6py@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Keywords: ISO8859-1 CP850 fidonet gateway Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, DC References: <eaRsVB2w165w@blues.kk.sub.org> <BzBJ0I.34s@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <24424@alice.att.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:37:18 GMT Lines: 39