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Article #556Re: Dumb Americans (was INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST)
From: Glenn A. Adams
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:05
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:05
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In article <2807@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp> mohta@necom830.cc.titech.ac.jp (Masataka Ohta) writes: >Glenn, you stop saying anything on Han. You know nothing. My, how polite you are today! Yes, you are right that nobody would count a 4 stroke grass radical as 3 strokes, or a 3 stroke grass radial as 4 strokes. As usual, you don't seem to grasp what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that the choice of whether to write a grass radical with 3 or 4 strokes is not cast in concrete; nor does it even matter, except for aesthetic reasons. I will grant that certain governments have tried to standardize on certain printed forms, but that doesn't extend to the way people write by hand. Then again, these same governments routinely attempt to limit the number of Han characters used in printing, to little avail. You still don't seem to grasp the distinction between characters and glyphs. Perhaps you slept through part of your formal education? You must have missed the classes which explained the notion of abstraction. Unicode is not a font standard, it does not specify the glyph to be used to depict a character. Any font designer (or display software) is free to use a glyph with a 3 or 4 stroke grass radical. Even if a display system uses a glyph with the different radical form, a user will not have any trouble understanding the text. Yes, they may notice that an unusual glyph shape was used (i.e., different than expected), but that won't affect their ability to read the text. This is the definition of "plain text": legible display. If you want your software to display different glyphs according to whether the character represents Chinese, Japanese, or Korean text, then support either language attribution or font (style) attribution. In the mean time, stop whining to this newsgroup about your pet peeves. The rest of us (i.e., myself) are too busy building systems that *will* support language tags and font tags to produce typographically correct results to spend all of our time answering your childish innuendoes. Glenn Adams
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!seismo!darwin.sura.net!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!yale!mintaka.lcs.mit.edu!ai-lab!wheat-chex!glenn From: glenn@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Glenn A. Adams) Newsgroups: comp.std.internat Subject: Re: Dumb Americans (was INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST) Keywords: Han Kanji Katakana Hirugana ISO10646 Unicode Codepages Message-ID: <1julp7INNhgf@life.ai.mit.edu> Date: 24 Jan 93 18:05:27 GMT References: <2770@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp> <1jnlg0INN9n4@life.ai.mit.edu> <2807@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp> Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu