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Re: Dumb Americans (was INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST)

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From: Glenn A. Adams
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:05
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In article <2807@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp> mohta@necom830.cc.titech.ac.jp (Masataka Ohta) writes:
>Glenn, you stop saying anything on Han. You know nothing.

My, how polite you are today!

Yes, you are right that nobody would count a 4 stroke grass radical
as 3 strokes, or a 3 stroke grass radial as 4 strokes.  As usual, you
don't seem to grasp what I'm saying.  What I'm saying is that the
choice of whether to write a grass radical with 3 or 4 strokes is
not cast in concrete; nor does it even matter, except for aesthetic
reasons.  I will grant that certain governments have tried to standardize
on certain printed forms, but that doesn't extend to the way people
write by hand.  Then again, these same governments routinely attempt
to limit the number of Han characters used in printing, to little avail.

You still don't seem to grasp the distinction between characters and
glyphs.  Perhaps you slept through part of your formal education?  You
must have missed the classes which explained the notion of abstraction.

Unicode is not a font standard, it does not specify the glyph to be
used to depict a character.  Any font designer (or display software)
is free to use a glyph with a 3 or 4 stroke grass radical.  Even if
a display system uses a glyph with the different radical form, a
user will not have any trouble understanding the text.  Yes, they
may notice that an unusual glyph shape was used (i.e., different than
expected), but that won't affect their ability to read the text.
This is the definition of "plain text":  legible display.

If you want your software to display different glyphs according to
whether the character represents Chinese, Japanese, or Korean text,
then support either language attribution or font (style) attribution.
In the mean time, stop whining to this newsgroup about your pet
peeves.  The rest of us (i.e., myself) are too busy building systems
that *will* support language tags and font tags to produce typographically
correct results to spend all of our time answering your childish
innuendoes.

Glenn Adams
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Subject: Re: Dumb Americans (was INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST)
Keywords: Han Kanji Katakana Hirugana ISO10646 Unicode Codepages
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