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Article #560Re: Cleanicode
From: A Wizard of Earth C
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:16
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:16
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In article <ISHIKAWA.93Jan21204416@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp> ishikawa@personal-media.co.jp writes:
> The problem is one of an existing character sets having multiple
> possible reverse translations of a single code point.
>
> A similar condition would be a Japanese/Chinese character set standard
> which had seperate code points for characters unified by Unicode; if
> such existed, then there would be no round-trip for characters translated
> from that character set to the Unicode character set -- the correct code
> point within the Japanese/Chinese combined set could not be identified
> by the Unicode character itself. No such example exists.
>
>I am an ignorant programmer. So bear with me. There is no such
>example, is there? [From what I heard, strictly hearsay, mind you,
>there seem to be a few characters that would look slightly differently
>on printed paper and yet were put into the same code point. This
>slight difference might be big enough for some to scream and small
>enough for others to ignore. If someone knowledgeable could shed some
>light on this mattter, I would be grateful.]
This is only true if the "round-tripping" were done from a character
recognition standpoint, where the input character could not be recognized
becuase of it being drawn differently. While I can think of several
examples here, they are pretty much non-applicable because the seperation
of the rendering engine technology from the storage and process coding
of the data.
A particular example would be a font with both Chinese and Japanese
characters which did not chare code points, ie:
-------- --------
---- ----
-------- --------
0x9915 0x9272
(Japanese) (Chinese)
I don't believe such a font exists. It's possible to create one, but
unless it ends up widely accepted, I expect that this would not impact
future revisions of Unicode.
>Wonder if there was such combined
>Latin/Cyrillic/Greek standard at the time of Unicode design.
ISO 8859-5 and IS 8859-7 seem to me to qualify.
Terry Lambert
terry@icarus.weber.edu
terry_lambert@novell.com
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