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Article #573Re: Cleanicode
From: Martin J. Duerst
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:49
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:49
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In article <MELBY.93Jan21142028@dove.yk.fujitsu.co.jp>, melby@dove.yk.fujitsu.co.jp (John B. Melby) writes:
> >In summation, it is clear to me that LGC should not be unified, but I
> >would feel more comfortable if I could articulate what it means to be
> >an autonomous script. Suggestions welcome, as always.
>
> This is essentially the same message that I posted in a Japanese newsgroup
> this morning, but anyway...
>
> Latin, Greek and Cyrillic typefaces have traditionally been developed
> separately, and ("TeX" notwithstanding) they are generally not combined
> with each other to form words. When a Greek or Russian word appears
> in English text using an entirely different font from the Latin font,
> it does not necessarily look out of place.
>
> When a Chinese place name appears inside Japanese text using a Chinese
> typeface (ignoring for the moment differences in official simplified
> characters), it is legible but looks slightly out of place. Whether
> this means that Chinese and Japanese characters may be treated as a
> single script, or that Japanese usage involves the "translation" of
> Chinese place names from the Chinese script to the Japanese script,
> depends on one's political bias.
>
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> John B. Melby
> Fujitsu Limited, Yokohama
> melby@yk.fujitsu.co.jp
In addition, pronounciation is changed to one of the Japanese readings too,
for most Chinese names. Makes it pretty complicated if you want to discuss
Chinese politics (or whatever) in Japan as a foreigner. You know a (bad)
approximation of the Chinese pronounciation, but neither the writing (Kanji)
nor the Japanese pronounciation. But for Koreans, at least magazines
give furigana (or should I say furikana, as these are katakana?), whereas
I don't remember the newspapers.
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