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Re: Let's develop ISO sorting rules

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From: Bengt Larsson
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 00:42
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In article <maf.726345946@dtek.chalmers.se> maf@dtek.chalmers.se (Martin Forssen) writes:
>unrza3@cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Markus Kuhn) writes:
>>>I believe you.  I'm sure that the analogous statement is true for French.  But
>>>I'm almost as sure that Swedish readers won't want "a-circle" to be anywhere
>>>near "a".  I think your flexibility on this is a language-relative phenomenon.
>>This would be really bad news, could someone from Sweden coment on this?
>
> I'm afraid a lot of Swedes will refuse to accept any sorting order which
> places aring and adiaeresis adjacent to a. In swedish these are completely
> different characters and aring and adiaeresis comes after z. All of this
> IMHO of course.

No IMHO needed. This is definitely not acceptable for swedish. 
"v" and "w" are commonly sorted together, however.

> I think it would be great if one could design a single sorting order based
> on character positions, but IMHO this is impossible. 

Oh yes, clearly.

>There is a too great
> mass of people out there who won't change... I think we will have to define
> some sort of list which defines the local sorting order.

Sorting orders are notoriously complicated anyway, if you want to get
it really "right".

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Bengt Larsson - bengtl@maths.lth.se
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