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Re: Dumb Americans (was INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST)

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From: Glenn A. Adams
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 18:22
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In article <2676@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp> mohta@necom830.cc.titech.ac.jp (Masataka Ohta) writes:
>Different Characters with different stroke counts are mapped to a
>single code point in 10646/Unicode.

For those in the listening audience who don't read Hanzi or Kanji, I should
say that Ohta-san is correct, but in a completely frivolous way.  Stroke
counts are a bit subjective.  Some people count some elements as distinct
strokes, whereas others do not.  However, there is no systematic difference
in the way that Japanese count strokes versus the way that Chinese count
strokes versus the way that Koreans count strokes.  The ways that CJK
standards bodies count strokes are extremely uniform; therefore, the
unification of CJK characters into single Han code elements does not 
remove discriminating information; rather, it preserves the common, important
information (formal and functional) represented by the unified elements.

>Thus, if you use 10646/Unicode, stroke count is context dependent. Don't
>use it.

This is a bit like saying "Japanese (or English or another language) is
context dependent.  Don't use it."  Come on Ohta-san, return to reality.
Try making a rational argument.

Glenn Adams
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