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Article #2chown and chmod u+s: Security Violation - why ?
From: Toon Moene
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1992 04:14
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1992 04:14
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Submitted-by: toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl (Toon Moene) Lectori Salutem, Recently, I had a short discussion with the support staff of ECMWF's Cray Y-MP/8 about the use of chown and chmod u+s on the (new) UNICOS 7.0. An excerpt follows: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Under UNICOS the setting of the SETUID bit on a binary file is by default restricted to ROOT. This is in accordance with the recommendations being submitted to POSIX. Cray, and other manufacturers, are modifying their systems to be POSIX-compliant and this, together with the removal of the 'chown' permission for "normal" users is probably the most obvious consequence to users. We allow "normal" users to change ownership of their files (though this may not be possible in the future), but not to SETUID their files, since, in the future, neither of these may be possible. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Short question: Why is it considered a security risk when people give away their own files (by chown'ing them to someone else) or setuid 'user' their own executables (OK, they have to be careful here) ? -- Toon Moene (toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl) Kantershof 269, 1104 GN Amsterdam, The Netherlands Tel.: + 31 20 6982029; Fax: + 31 20 6003411 No Disclaimers; a NeXT at home protects against this occupational hazard. Volume-Number: Volume 28, Number 70
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!uunet!not-for-mail From: toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl (Toon Moene) Newsgroups: comp.std.unix Subject: chown and chmod u+s: Security Violation - why ? Date: 2 Aug 1992 21:14:20 -0700 Organization: Moene Computational Physics, Amsterdam, The Netherlands Lines: 34 Sender: sef@ftp.UU.NET Approved: sef@ftp.uucp (Moderator, Sean Eric Fagan) Message-ID: <15ibqsINNc3a@ftp.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: ftp.uu.net X-Submissions: std-unix@uunet.uu.net