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Article #253Re: Standards Update, USENIX Standards Watchdog Committee
From: Michael Jones
Date: Tue, 01 May 1990 17:53
Date: Tue, 01 May 1990 17:53
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From: mbj@spice.cs.cmu.edu (Michael Jones) > > The threads subgroup (1003.4A) has attempted to kill the .4 ballot by > > a block vote for rejection. One correspondent says they are doing > > this because .4 is no good without threads. > > I'd like to hear an explanation of this assertion. Certainly, for > years we've been developing real-time applications without support > for threads. They seem like separable issues to me. Since this came up again I suppose it warrants a reply. I'd like to state as an active member of .4a (which makes me an active member of .4 since the two are one and the same working groups) that I perceive no attempt to kill .4. Several detailed ballot objections were submitted of which mine was certainly one. My objections were motivated by areas of the .4 proposal which I felt could be significantly improved and responsive suggestions were made. I know of others who felt similarly and balloted in kind. But in no way did I perceive any linkage between attempting to improve .4 and any alleged inadequacy of .4 without threads. Realtime support is good. Threads are good. They can be used together. They can be used separately. In my view those members of the working group with realtime expertise have improved .4 and those with threads expertise have improved .4a. I perceive no conflict. -- Mike Volume-Number: Volume 19, Number 90
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!longway!std-unix From: mbj@spice.cs.cmu.edu (Michael Jones) Newsgroups: comp.std.unix Subject: Re: Standards Update, USENIX Standards Watchdog Committee Summary: No attempt by .4a to kill .4 Message-ID: <655@longway.TIC.COM> Date: 1 May 90 17:53:44 GMT References: <1990Apr17.225128.7324@ico.isc.com> <650@longway.TIC.COM> Sender: std-unix@longway.TIC.COM Reply-To: std-unix@uunet.uu.net Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 28 Approved: jsq@longway.tic.com (Moderator, John S. Quarterman)