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Started by lwv27%CAS.bitnet
Tue, 14 Aug 1990 02:56
POSIX tools list?
Author: lwv27%CAS.bitnet
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 1990 02:56
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 1990 02:56
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From: lwv27%CAS.bitnet@jade.Berkeley.EDU Does anyone have easily available a list of what tools are being proposed for the POSIX standard? Is there a reason for this list not to contain requirements for certain standard shell tools which are not necessarily a part of the 4.2 BSD/ System V.3 or before universe? For instance, perl is quite popular tool which appears to be very useful for the same types of things for which sed & awk are used. Is perl on the list of standard tools for a POSIX environment? If not, is there a set of criteria being used other than existing practice (while no one is specifically shipping perl that I am aware of, it is running on many, if not most, types of Unix, as well as there being efforts for its presence under a number on non-Unix OSs I believe). -- Larry W. Virden Business: UUCP: osu-cis!chemabs!lwv27 INET: lwv27%cas.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.Edu Personal: 674 Falls Place, Reynoldsburg,OH 43068-1614 Proline: lvirden@pro-tcc.cts.com America Online: lvirden CIS: [75046,606] Volume-Number: Volume 21, Number 27
Re: POSIX tools list?
Author: David A Willcox
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 1990 13:55
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 1990 13:55
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From: willcox@urbana.mcd.mot.com (David A Willcox)
In comp.std.unix you write:
>From: lwv27%CAS.bitnet@jade.Berkeley.EDU
>Does anyone have easily available a list of what tools are being
>proposed for the POSIX standard?
Here's what's in 1003.2 (Draft 10). This is more than just
"proposed", it is very close to an approved standard. (There
certainly will be very few changes to this list.) Note that 1003.2 is
targeted to shell scripts, NOT to interactive users, so no more (pg,
less or whatever), vi, or such.
awk
basename
bc
cat
cd
chgrp
chmod
cksum
cmp
comm
cp
cut
date
dd
diff
dirname
echo
ed
env
expr
false
find
fold
getconf
getopts
grep
head
id
join
kill
ln
locale
localedef
logger
logname
lp
ls
mailx
mkdir
mkfifo
mv
nohup
od
paste
pathchk
oax
pr
printf
pwd
read
rm
rmdir
sed
sh
sleep
sort
stty
tail
tee
test
touch
tr
true
tty
umask
uname
uniq
wait
wc
xargs
As a separate option:
ar
make
strip
As a separate option:
c89
lex
yacc
As a separate option:
asa
fort77
1003.2a, which is targetted to users, contains the following:
alias
at
batch
bg
compress
crontab
csplit
ctags
df
du
ex
expand
fc
fg
file
jobs
lint89
man
mesg
more
newgrp
nice
nm
passwd
patch
ps
renice
split
strings
tabs
talk
tput
unalias
uncompress
unexpand
uudecode
uuencode
vi
who
write
zcat
> Is there a reason for this list
>not to contain requirements for certain standard shell tools which
>are not necessarily a part of the 4.2 BSD/ System V.3 or before
>universe? For instance, perl is quite popular tool which appears
>to be very useful for the same types of things for which sed & awk are used.
I wasn't in this particular group, so I don't know if perl was
discussed, and I don't know perl. However, if perl is just a "nicer"
way to do things than can also be done with sed and awk, I'm sure that
the reaction of the group would be that it is less widely used than
sed and awk, and provides no additional functionality. Just being
easier to use is not NECESSARILY a telling argument.
>Is perl on the list of standard tools for a POSIX environment? If
>not, is there a set of criteria being used other than existing practice
>(while no one is specifically shipping perl that I am aware of, it
>is running on many, if not most, types of Unix, as well as there being
>efforts for its presence under a number on non-Unix OSs I believe).
Existing practice is a criterium. HOW widely used is also. Also,
there should in general not be many ways to do the same thing.
David A. Willcox "Just say 'NO' to universal drug testing"
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Volume-Number: Volume 21, Number 28
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