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Re: Schedule and budget are secondary

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From: Ted Dunning
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1989 16:41
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In article <3807@rtech.rtech.com> linda@rtech.rtech.com (Linda Mundy) writes:

   In article <16187@vail.ICO.ISC.COM> rcd@ico.ISC.COM (Dick Dunn) writes:

	...
   I personally think that any new, just-out-of-school programmer
   should do maintenance work for awhile (assuming, of course,
   that the company already has a product!)
	...

why wait until then?  one of the most important things that any
course in software engineering should have students do is work on
a large system.  for that matter, so should _all_ but the most
basic courses.  if you have compiler class, make them work on a
real compiler, in a course on semantics, make them work with the
semantics of a real language.

	...
   But the most important point: don't diminish people because of
   their relative positions.  It can't do any good -- in fact, it
   is exactly such attitudes that lead to "bored, second-string"
   employees -- wherever they happen to be in the organizational
   structure.
	...

i am not sure that dick was trying to diminish people asmuch as
he was just observing that the programmers who do maintenance
and typically _are_ bored, typically _are_ second-string.

--
ted@nmsu.edu
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From: ted@nmsu.edu (Ted Dunning)
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Subject: Re: Schedule and budget are secondary
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Date: 12 Oct 89 16:41:43 GMT
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